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I think I'm overweight

Discussion in 'Towing' started by 2015NoVaTaco, Sep 4, 2017.

  1. Sep 5, 2017 at 7:26 AM
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    2015NoVaTaco

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    Yeah I'm thinking about driving 60 miles (120 RT) for a reweigh. I'm at the lower limit for the extra stuff I bring. I can't even bring my kid along with me if these weights are right. The trailer must have lead ingots in the walls or something.
     
  2. Sep 5, 2017 at 1:24 PM
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    Weighed my 2017 DCSB OR / full tank, no driver or passengers: 4320 lb.
     
  3. Sep 6, 2017 at 8:29 AM
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    Is yours a 4x2?
     
  4. Sep 6, 2017 at 9:45 AM
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    Yes
     
  5. Sep 6, 2017 at 4:01 PM
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    Yep... That's over weight. It will do it but be very careful. Like an airplane, it will fly with the weight and balance screwed up, but it is very unstable when things go wrong...
     
  6. Sep 7, 2017 at 6:24 AM
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    This weekend I'm going to get some help in hooking up the weight distribution hitch and get it all reweighed. Hopefully, I will have better numbers to report (not likely). I like the truck, but it might be time to upgrade (or down grade the trailer).
     
  7. Sep 7, 2017 at 5:57 PM
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    You are over weight. The general rule of thumb is 20% less.. That means that your GCVW should be no more than 80% of the manufactures GCVWR. you are way over if you stick to that rule.. The heavy rating on the rear wheels is odd but if its true the rear bearings are taking a beating. The other thing to think about is the liability if something happens and you are at fault or even not at fault, with an over weight rig you can be held partially liable in some states. It seems you are in the same boat an me. I am over 80% weight at 9220LBs loaded I feel like a bigger truck will be a better option for long distance towing. I have been looking at all the brands and have not made any decisions yet. I really like the Taco but safety is more important to me. Time for a new larger truck. If you are car racing your equipment is not going to get any lighter. If I were you I would be looking at the 3/4 ton class trucks.
     
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  8. Sep 8, 2017 at 6:44 AM
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    Yes, thanks. The enclosed trailer was a way to get the car off the street in front of my house and some of the related junk out of my garage. I was towing with an open trailer and it sold to a fellow in the car club before I could really evaluate this. My options seem to be: go back to open towing, buy a bigger truck, find a different hobby.

    I looked at some F-150s with the Ecoboost. They are nice and you can get a used one with more options than a similarly priced Tundra. After test driving that it made my Tacoma feel like my Miata!
     
  9. Sep 8, 2017 at 7:08 AM
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    You and another poster said: "the numbers don't add up"

    It appears that your numbers DO add up, but maybe you're saying that they don't seem logical?

    Lets say your
    • truck 4800# +- 250#
    • car 2900# +- 150#
    • equipment 500#
    • trailer ~?2800#?
    5000 + 3000 + 3000 = 11,000 :thumbsup:
    Truck + Car + Trailer = Total

    Now as for the distribution of the weight.

    • Steer Axle: 2400
    • Trailer Axle: 3700
    • Drive Axle: 5480
    • Total: 11580
    Weight distributing hitches are kind of funny they take the connection point and re-apply the force back into the trailer frame.
    *Lets make the assumption it is loaded incorrectly, and you actually have 2000# of tongue weight. This would imply that ~ 2/3 of your total trailer weight was in front of the trailer tipping point (usually centered over the axle). This would explain the drive axle weight, and the trailer axle weight. The common rule for loading tongue weight is 10-15% of the trailer's total weight. So you should be around 600-900#

    I think you should consider loading the car further back and seeing if you could get those numbers to even out so that your trailer axle number is closer to 5000# and your truck rear axle is 3500#.

    ** I am not a towing expert, but I do read a lot about towing.
    PS Yes, most likely you're over GVCW weight. See thumbnail image.
    Here is a nice informational video!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyagKzvJwYw
    upload_2017-9-8_9-12-20.jpg
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2017
  10. Sep 22, 2017 at 6:49 PM
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    I love that video!
     
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  11. Oct 2, 2017 at 12:10 PM
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    I went over to the V8 side. Which is a mixed moment for me. I liked my Taco, but I think I'll really like this Crewmax Tundra for towing.
     

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