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Brakes not as good as they used to be

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by nh_yota, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. Sep 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM
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    nh_yota

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    Anyone with an older Tacoma - say 2010 or older - do you feel like the brakes are not as grabby as they used to be when the truck was new? I've had my 2010 since new and it feels like over the years the brakes have progressively required more pedal force to stop the truck.

    I put new OEM-quality Advics pads and rotors along with reman Oreilly calipers on my truck back in April because the original ones finally wore out at 85k miles. I bled the front calipers and didn't notice much of a difference in performance, so this week I took it to my local dealer to have the whole brake system flushed with the TIS computer. I also had the rear drums cleaned and adjusted even though I didn't think they were out of adjustment. I was just trying to cover all the bases.

    Even after all of the work this year I haven't noticed any performance improvement and it just feels like I need to stomp on the pedal to get the truck to stop quickly. I don't remember the brakes taking so much effort the first few years I owned the truck.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Sep 15, 2017 at 2:29 PM
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    i should add that the truck brakes in a straight line with no pull to either side and the pedal is firm
     
  3. Sep 15, 2017 at 3:52 PM
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    I bled the front when I installed the new front calipers. My TRD O/R has the electric brake booster with the built in ABS pump so I also had the dealer bleed the booster with the TechStream tool to make sure no air is trapped in the unit.

    A bad rear seal may be a possibility but I just had the dealer clean and adjust the rear brakes, and I'd expect them to let me know if there was a leak because they'd like to make more money.
     
  4. Sep 15, 2017 at 4:01 PM
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    Oh I know and I would have taken the drums off myself and checked but I just haven't had the time. I had to take my truck in for the state inspection this week so I had them do the brake flush and check out the rear drums since it was up on the lift.
     
  5. Sep 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM
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    " . . . OEM-quality Advics pads and rotors along with reman Oreilly calipers . . . "

    Really? What the heck is 'Advics'.

    I always use OEM parts (ie - from a Toyota dealer) for brake parts. Not so-called 'OEM-quality' or reman aftermarket.
    Brakes are too important to use bottom-of-the-line stuff.

    Not certain about 2nd-gens, but if you can change a flat tire, you can change pads and rotors (its really easy).
     
  6. Sep 28, 2017 at 11:27 PM
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    Advics is the manufacturer of Toyota's OEM brake pads and rotors. Calipers are manufactured by either Advics or Sumitomo.
     
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    Are you using the e brake on a daily basis ?
     
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    Why did you replace the calipers? Those aren't really a wear item unless you go metal to metal and heat the rotors enough to melt the lines (seent it, repaired it) or otherwise damage a piston seal.

    My step dad complained of a mushy pedal in his 2015 immediately upon receipt. Not sure what the final diagnosis was by Toyota but they replaced a lot of expensive shit and paid for a lot of field techs to finally figure it out.
     
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    I’ve had 5 Toyota trucks all were bought new. And even though I love my Tacoma’s I’ve never been impressed with the brakes. Other trucks I’ve driven just feel better when you hit the brakes. What you are experiencing just may be typical Tacoma braking.
     
  11. Sep 30, 2017 at 2:05 AM
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    Stainless steel brake lines made more of a difference in braking feel than new pads and rotors did for me. I'd invest in some of those for sure.
     
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    One of the first mods I do on anything with brakes. Everything really should come factory with them it makes so much difference!
     

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