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Wheel and Tire "Will this fit/rub" stock, leveled, and lifted info inside (complete with poll)

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by eccracer104, Oct 12, 2017.

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Wheel and tire fitment:

  1. 1st gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and no rubbing

    2.3%
  2. 1st gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and I am rubbing

    1.4%
  3. 2nd gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and no rubbing

    15.8%
  4. 2nd gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and I am rubbing

    2.8%
  5. 3rd gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and no rubbing

    26.8%
  6. 3rd gen: stock height & stock wheels 265/75-16 or 265/70-17 and I am rubbing

    3.7%
  7. 1st gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and no rubbing

    0.6%
  8. 1st gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I am rubbing

    0.8%
  9. 1st gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I rubbed but fixed it with CMC

    0.3%
  10. 2nd gen:2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and no rubbing

    5.9%
  11. 2nd gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I am rubbing

    5.6%
  12. 2nd gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I rubbed but fixed it with CMC

    6.5%
  13. 3rd gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and no rubbing

    7.9%
  14. 3rd gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I am rubbing

    4.5%
  15. 3rd gen: 2-3" lift with aftermarket wheels 285/75-16 or 285/70-17 and I rubbed but fixed it with CMC

    5.6%
  16. 1st gen: Stock height with 255 (tall skinny) tires and I am rubbing

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. 1st gen: Stock height with 255 (tall skinny) tires and no rubbing

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  18. 2nd gen and 3rd gen: Stock height with 255/85-16 or 255/80-17 tires and I am rubbing

    0.6%
  19. 2nd gen and 3rd gen: Stock height with 255/85-16 or 255/80-17 tires and no rubbing

    1.4%
  20. Any gen: 35" tires because I like to cut stuff

    7.3%
  1. Oct 12, 2017 at 11:22 PM
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    eccracer104

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    100% true. I had mentioned that the type of tire plays a role in the amount of rubbing and trimming that would be involved.
    It really depends how far down the rabbit hole you want to go, that first post could have easily been twice as long going more in depth haha.
     
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  2. Oct 13, 2017 at 12:16 AM
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    This thread is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Mike :thumbsup:. It was good seeing you today at the meetup. Sub'ed.
     
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  3. Oct 13, 2017 at 2:27 AM
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    275/70/17 stock suspension on mine.. no rub, room to spare... dont forget that tire size, and my truck is stock..
     
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  4. Oct 13, 2017 at 7:49 AM
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    :thumbsup:
    Any chance you could share some pictures, show your wheels turned to give an idea of how much clearance there is between your tire and fender liner when turning?
     
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  5. Oct 13, 2017 at 1:14 PM
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    yes i can...there would be even more clearance with the flaps off,, they arnt much smaller than 285/70's.. but from the corner to cab mount there is still a 1 1/2 in of clearance,, they are cooper at3's 6 ply. but then again it is a Pro,,lol.. got IMG_5165.jpg IMG_5167.jpg IMG_5166.jpg
     
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  6. Oct 13, 2017 at 4:01 PM
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    Nice info here
     
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  7. Oct 13, 2017 at 4:08 PM
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    1. You should get a fucking medal. @tcBob

    2. Now I have a link to send to the lazy ass noobs.
     
  8. Oct 13, 2017 at 5:21 PM
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    Just what we need! Thank you for sharing the pictures. Hopefully will help a lot of people :cheers:
    :fistbump:
    Haha! :humble:

    That's the plan. It'll be way helpful once this poll fills up
     
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  9. Oct 14, 2017 at 4:26 PM
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    No idea about fitment, but I think Nitto Trail Grappler M/T's are a great looking tire. Not too heavy, soft rubber walls, and Load C range weighing under 67lbs.
    I'm really considering getting these when the time is right. Pricey though. Nearly $400 per tire.
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Nov 5, 2017 at 8:38 PM
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    Loved the writeup @eccracer104 ! Thanks so much for this, its so helpful! Had a question, and wondered if you had an opinion, I checked these wheels out on a couple sites and they said they wouldn't fit my Taco, what do you think? I know the center bore is a bit larger so I'd have to get a centering ring, would that be the reason why the sites are registering it as not compatible? Seems like they should work...

    https://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/...11&t_s=535&t_pt=101508&t_pn=W/PXD30179060712N

    I'll be going with BFG KO2 A/T 285/70/17 tires

    I have a 2014 4wd Base SR5 4.0L
     
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  11. Nov 6, 2017 at 10:44 AM
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    I don't have the exact same wheel but the same specs, I'm running XD Series 796 Revolver wheels 17"x 9" 4.5" back spacing -12mm offset on my truck. They fit, but they're aggressive. They will stick out past the fender and you will rub. I had to trim my fenders and do the CMC to clear my tires turning. It was pretty funny for awhile coming into parking spots and having people run out thinking I was hitting their car because he rubbing was so loud haha. This was at 2.5" lift.
     
  12. Nov 6, 2017 at 10:47 AM
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    @hammertaco11

    Here's an old pic but should help show what that set up will look like -
    17x9 -12mm offset 285/70-17 tires will bilstein 5100s at 2.5" and stock rear.
    IMG_5655.jpg
     
  13. Nov 6, 2017 at 4:26 PM
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    @eccracer104 How much of the CMC did you have to do? I dont mind cutting some fenders, but if it's a lot then I might go a different direction. do you think a different offset on those wheels would work? they have options for a 18mm offset with 5.74 backspace
    https://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/...=11&t_s=535&t_pt=101508&t_pn=W/PXD30179060718

    or would it help things to go to an 8.5" wheel?
    there's a wheel at

    -6mm offset with 4.51 backspace
    or
    25mm offset with 5.73 backspace

    lol sorry to overload you with questions, you're the most knowledgeable person I've come across, so any info helps!
    I should add that I'm gonna run a OME lift kit with 887 springs in front that give me about 2.5-3" clearance and dakar leaf pack in the rear. I love the stance on yours, the wheels pop out just enough from the fender. Thats the look I'm going for
     
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  14. Nov 6, 2017 at 4:40 PM
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    Here's the tough part, you want that look, you have to do the modification to make it work. You can skip the trimming and CMC, but you'll rub. There's always a trade off.
    As for the wheel offset/backspacing you need to keep 4.5" back spacing to avoid the tire rubbing the UCA. The 5.75" BS option will NOT work without a wheel spacer which brings us back to 4.5" BS.
    A narrower wheel will help reduce rubbing and trimming but won't give you the look you want because it won't stick out as far.

    My vote is go for the look you want. You may have less trimming to do than I did because you'll be lifted higher, and some people can get away without the CMC all together. I'd rather prepare you for the worst and hope for the best.

    Really though, is a little bit of cutting of plastic and relocating a plate of metal the deciding factor between exactly what you want and a compromise? It is intimidating now, but once you get in there you'll see it's not that bad. The inner fender liner cuts easily, and if you do need to cut some of the fender plastic take your time on it, make it clean so you're happy with the end results.
    The guy who did my CMC had never done one before, I had no idea what it even looked like and just told him cut some metal and put some more metal in it's place further back. BAMF actually makes precut plates for the CMC, find a better welder (not a guy out of his garage like I had) and he will be able to weld it up to where it looks like factory. Down here in socal @Speed Freek does the CMC so cleanly you wouldn't even know it was done unless you know what to look for.

    My .02 :cheers:

    ps: feel free to ask as many questions as you have :thumbsup: I might not always have the answer, but at least can move you further along than you were before.
     
  15. Nov 7, 2017 at 10:36 AM
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    If the CMC is done properly you wont even know its there, last I checked I have done close to 100 of them, lol.
     
  16. Nov 7, 2017 at 11:11 AM
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    What do you usually charge for CMCs? Just tryin to get a ballpark of what I'm looking at.
     
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  17. Nov 8, 2017 at 9:39 AM
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    285/75/16 Cooper STT Pros on stock wheels. Low Range Off-road 3/1 leveling kit with Spidertrax spacers on all 4 corners. No rubbing, rides great!
     
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  18. Nov 10, 2017 at 8:05 AM
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    Great thread !
    I put ICON Alphas 17 X 8.5 BLK 6 X 5.5" 4.75" 0MM 106.1MM 2500 LBS and BFG KO2's 285/70/17 on my truck two weeks ago and dig the look but my truck needs to perform in the desert and mountains so I am having Jason @speedfreek do my CMC and pinch welds next week.
    I have already done a little trimming and have heard a little liner rub so I need to trim.
    I will update when done.
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  19. Nov 10, 2017 at 8:14 AM
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    Those wheels look great man!

    I assume you meant 285/70-17?
     
  20. Nov 10, 2017 at 10:12 AM
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    Mostly stock with a lil' mod here and there.
    Thank you for this info! I finally bought new tires and upgraded the rims. I'm not one to offroad to extremes and have a budget to consider but had to represent my adventurous side with a more rugged look. Luckily the guy at America's Tire didn't argue with me cuz I'm a girl. ;-) The poll above doesn't have a spot for me, but I got the 265/65/R17 PTF Pathfinder AT's with MB Chaos 6 wheels (both the store's brands), stock height. I noticed pulling out of the driveway this morning they do rub a touch but I'm handy with a dremel and know people who weld, so will try the mod's this weekend. Once I do, I'll post pics.

    IMG_4943.jpg
    IMG_4944.jpg
     
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