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Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Dacon, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. Oct 15, 2017 at 9:31 AM
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    Ya from what I read, vibes are usually from the transfer case angle not the pinion.
     
  2. Oct 15, 2017 at 10:51 AM
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    Not good in a long time and also vibe is bead for welds, fittings, etc.
    Have ordered 2* shims from 4Crawler 3 weeks ago and still no date when shipped...under fabrication.
    This is why I am not using the truck as much as possible not to over load the u-joints and shake the truck.
     
  3. Oct 15, 2017 at 6:18 PM
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    Axle wrap is a product of motion. Newton's laws in real life. As one mass is moving in a direction, the other mass is moving in the opposite direction as:
    - airplane propeller is spinning to the right and the plane is banking left.
    - front wheels spin down and the car nose rises.
    Another reason to start slow from still and accelerate progressively to minimize axle wrap...3.5L is slow but a gift in disguise.
     
  4. Oct 16, 2017 at 10:09 AM
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  5. Oct 16, 2017 at 12:48 PM
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    Yes I have that calculator but I lost the paper with data we did...:frusty::facepalm:
     
  6. Oct 16, 2017 at 1:08 PM
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    Ahhhhh but I took a pic of it. But it'll cost you those front Fox takeoffs
     
  7. Oct 16, 2017 at 2:37 PM
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    FOX gone a long time ago...Love the Icons stiffness.
     
  8. Oct 16, 2017 at 2:42 PM
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    Why not just measure the driveshaft angles and then decide if your truck needs shims or not? Otherwise you're just throwing money at a guess.
     
  9. Oct 16, 2017 at 2:52 PM
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    I have average all values from the 3 point measurement and I have:
    first U-joint from transfer case to haft 1 working angle 3.2* (have zeroed on the transfer case and also flange to make sure is 0*)
    - shaft one 3.2*
    - shaft two 7.7*
    middle U-Joint working angle 4.5*
    - shaft two 7.7*
    - pinion angle 0.5*
    pinion working angle 7.2*
    7.2 - 4.5 = 2.7*
    Need shims of 2.7* (2* or 3*)
    Here comes another question. Since by adding a shim will rise (add) another 1/4" to the rear height of the truck and also increase the second shaft to pinion U-joint angle, do I use the 3* shims I have or wait for the never showing 2* shims I ordered? Also in time if the rear leaf springs sag, would the 3* induce a too much angle to the U-joint pinion?
    (data collected with another TW member. Yellow is my data)

    angles.jpg
     
  10. Oct 16, 2017 at 2:57 PM
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    Your first working angle is 3.2*?
     
  11. Oct 16, 2017 at 3:03 PM
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    For reference, the blue is my stock DCLB
     
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  12. Oct 16, 2017 at 3:12 PM
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    As you've already deduced, you want the working angles of the middle u-joint and rear u-joint to be as equal as possible to cancel each other out during rotation. Anything more than 1* difference and you can pretty much guarantee driveline vibrations. Also keep in mind with inverted shackles that come on second/third gens, the ass squats instead of lifts under acceleration.

    FYI Toytech has axle shims from 2-4 degrees in half degree increments.

    http://toyteclifts.3dcartstores.com/Zinc-Rear-Axle-Shims_p_273.html
     
  13. Oct 16, 2017 at 3:14 PM
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    Yes first angle is 3.2* Considering I have never work on the engine/transmission/transfer case and also never touched the CB to influence the angle of the U-joint at the transfer case and the first shaft, I guess it came like this form truck mama. Curious what others have the angle there.
     
  14. Oct 16, 2017 at 3:20 PM
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    Were you on a level surface when measuring driveline angles?
    Also what angle finder were you using? Not sure if you're using the Harbor Freight version, but the HF digital level isn't as accurate as people think. It's +/- 0.3 degrees. Measuring one working angle of one joint and you could be 0.6* off. There are better ones on the market for basically the same price with more accurate measurements (and the magnets don't fall out).
     
  15. Oct 16, 2017 at 3:31 PM
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    Leveled ground in the middle of the Cul-de-sac (hope so) and used HF angle finder. Before the truck measurement I have checked a few well known angles in the shop and was accurate within 0.0* and 0.1*.
     

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