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Any one running Nitrogen

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Suki-2, Dec 16, 2017.

  1. Dec 16, 2017 at 5:51 PM
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    Suki-2

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    I have Michelin 265/70R/16 that came with nitrogen.
    Plan on buying Michelin LTX M/S 265/70R/16
    Is there an advantage to filling with Nitrogen
    Also any one know cost of filling?
     
  2. Dec 16, 2017 at 8:46 PM
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    I run about 75% nitrogen. Produced from my own air compressor at home.
     
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  3. Dec 16, 2017 at 8:49 PM
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    nitrogen advertisement such bs. There is nitrogen in the air.


    Air is 78 percent nitrogen, just under 21 percent oxygen, and the rest is water vapor, CO2 and small concentrations of noble gases such as neon and argon. We can ignore the other gases.
     
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  4. Dec 18, 2017 at 7:26 PM
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    I agree with the above ^

    I see no real advantage to nitrogen-filled tires. They still fluctuate psi with the temperature in my experience just as much as regular tires do.
     
  5. Dec 18, 2017 at 7:30 PM
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    Hahahaha! Me too! Costs a fortune for such specialized equipment.
     
  6. Dec 19, 2017 at 4:22 AM
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    I had LTX M/S on my '07. I got 77,000 out of the first set with N2. I traded it in on my '17 Limited with 74,000 miles on the second set, also with N2, and that set still had 5/32" tread depth. Don't let the trolls that roam this forum tell you what they don't know. I will be getting N2 for the '17 with LTX M/S this week and I'll pay about $8.00/tire. Switching to N2 still requires regular rotation with balance check and during filling, a reputable shop will fill and empty twice to assist in removing anything not N2.
    Ambient air is indeed 78% N2, but that is not 100%. With all the anal things people on this forum do to their trucks, some good ideas, others simply silly, my experience says "do it".
    BTW, my wife's Honda has 68K on a set of Michelin and last week at service I was told the tread depth was 6/32".
     
  7. Dec 19, 2017 at 9:54 AM
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    Not trying to start an argument, but what makes you think the Nitrogen led to the good miles? We have around 50k miles on a set of Michelin LTX MS2’s and they will likely go another 25-50k, with regular old air. I doubt it was the nitrogen giving you the good mileage - it is just a good tire.
     
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  8. Dec 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM
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    :deadhorse: another fucking N2 thread. Don't ask people on this forum about it, hardly anyone knows benefits to using N2 in tires vs compressed air.
     
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  9. Dec 19, 2017 at 4:24 PM
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    I agree, great tire. I worked alongside a tire dealer for years. Doubted it myself until I started asking customers their opinions. Be it a cheap tire or a great tire, everyone should know that proper inflation (and rotation/alignment) are key to tire life.
    As an old timer chemical/mechanical engineer explained N2 in tires to me, and I'll paraphrase, N2 molecules are larger than O2, ect. thus lower chances of migration thru the tire walls, beads and stems yielding less potential for under inflation. Since N2 is more stable during temperature fluctuations, when using good 'ol 'Merican air, when the tire is cold, PSI is lower than while hot further reducing under/over inflation and the deleterious effects those have on wear and handling. Your 32 psi stays closer to 32 psi during most temperature ranges.
    If that were not enough, the lack of moisture (that inevitably occurs from within the compressor) in the tire, greatly reduces the possibility of corrosion of the wheel.
    How many regular people do you see at the "service station" checking the air in their tires? Many on this forum probably do, but just as many don't and for $24.00, give me N2 and let me watch my tire pressure gauge on the dash hover around 30 PSI for each tire. I'm not a fan of shelling out any more $$ for things like tires than I have to.
    I also like the cool little green stem caps.
     
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  10. Dec 19, 2017 at 6:44 PM
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    N2 is better, but if you think about it - if a tire with regular air starts with 78% N2, and the non-N2 gases migrate out and you refill with compressed air also at 78% N2, you eventually increase the % of N2 in the tire over time. Logically, yes N2 does make a lot of sense. But practically, not so much.
     
  11. Dec 19, 2017 at 6:52 PM
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    This could get expensive if you air down to off-road often and pay to refill with N2 every time.
     
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  12. Dec 21, 2017 at 5:06 AM
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    Why would just the N2 migrate out? Flawed logic.

    https://www.getnitrogen.org/index.php
     
  13. Dec 21, 2017 at 5:07 AM
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    Could this help the trolls on this forum?

    https://www.getnitrogen.org/index.php
     
  14. Dec 21, 2017 at 5:34 AM
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    because race car ^

    is that website sponsered by the goverment?
     
  15. Dec 21, 2017 at 6:13 AM
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    N2 expands/contracts less due to temperature. If you are running a F1 car at 180 MPH, N2 makes a difference. I lost my dealer installed 100% N2 charge the first time I aired down at the beach. No it does not make a difference to me.
     
  17. Dec 24, 2017 at 4:59 AM
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    I was just commenting on a statement another made that the non-N2 gases have a higher chance of migrating out of the tire, not the N2.
     
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