Firearm BS thread

chainsaw closer range than I seek

in for the group buy of flame thrower attachment,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,guess it will be called Tactihot,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Anyone else see the Sentinel safes on Reddit? They're on sale at Walmart for $154 I picked one up and it is pretty sweet. It's a 12 gun with an electronic lock

 

Anyone have Shot Show Reveals/ updates yet?

 

"Too light to fight and too heavy to run"

 

"12 gun"

 

FTFY.

 

so apparently Taurus is coming out with a 692 this year available with 3 and 6.5" barrels, its a 7 shot 357 that will also shoot 9mm
I assume it has to be cut for moon clips which then makes me wonder if I can get a cylinder to swap into my 66 which is also a 7 shot 357, then I could use moon clips for it...
it looks like the tracker (which is a 627 I believe) so I may dig around and see how compatible the cylinders are between the guns

 

That grip looks annoying as hell to muckle on to. Taurus needs to stop taking their inspiration from dildos.

 

haha they do have those on several of their guns, 627, 85, and judge to name a few. my 66 has finger groves which luckily fit my hand pretty decently, I've heard a lot of people like those grips those because the soft fins conform to any size hand basically

 

scratch that, the 85 just has the ribs on the back

 

They remind me of the crappy grips I had on my single-speed huffy back when I was 8, lol.

They were a lot like this, but worse:

 

Since the announcement last week, there has been a lot of rumor and speculation about the secret behind Franklin Armory’s Reformation. Many people thought that since Franklin Armory is known for their Binary Trigger, then the NFA work around must be trigger related. This is incorrect. The Binary Trigger has been out for a while now and does not alter the classification of the rifles or pistols you install then into. But wait, what about “release” triggers. Ok those do exist and are most commonly found in competition Trap or Skeet shotguns. However they are still considered shotguns.

The next possibility is the barrel or ammo. Some hypothesized that perhaps the barrel has a smooth bore and the Reformation would need to use rifled ammunition. This does not work either since a smooth bore would put the Reformation into the classification of shotgun.

Here is the definition of a rifle according to the ATF.

The term “Rifle” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed metallic cartridgeto fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.

And here is the definition of a shotgun.

The term “Shotgun” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger.

So what makes the Reformation sit outside of these definition?

. . . projectile through a rifled bore. . .
That is the key component. The barrel is neither rifled nor smooth so the only option left is straight lands and grooves. Yes, Franklin Armory is bringing back black powder technology. This means the projectile does not spin.

How accurate is it? You can easily hit what you are aiming at out to 50 yards. Then out to 100 yards you are getting 4-5″ groups. Could an AR pistol or SBR beat that? Of course. But this was made for two distinct reasons.

1. CQB distances
2. Loophole against NFA

Please excuse the poor images, Getting the lands and grooves in the photo is very challenging. In some angles the barrel looks smooth but if you catch the light just right, you can just make out the lands and grooves,



The Reformation we shot on Range Day was chambered in 5.56×45 but Franklin Armory will be releasing a .300blk version first. They find the round seems to group better than the 5.56version. MSRP will be similar to their SBR Libertas at $2095. That is a bit pricey but the Reformation does come with a binary trigger. The version I shot had the Black Friday limited edition straight bow trigger. Binary BFSIII triggers cost $430. That makes the rifle only $1665. Now the price does not sound so bad.

Franklin also has some ideas about ammunition for the Reformation. Aside from your stereotypical spun projectile, the other method of stabilizing a round is either fin stabilization or flair design like a badminton shuttle cock. They are working with an ammo manufacturer to develop said rounds.

 

looks like an M-39 emr kinda:thumbsup

 

Danm that bring me back

 

I was just about to post about the reformation, funky idea but for a truck gun it seems to be a good compromise, if it were to be damaged or stolen it wouldn’t be a tax stamp going out the window.

 

Yeah for a QCB it should be a fun gun....

I'm still not convinced this is the whole deal with this gun yet but does make sense....

 

Say hello to his little friend

 

When the first article popped up on Facebook I laughed, and then I saw Dustin ellerman had posted the same thing and started to realize it was probably serious.

 

It just needs some dissecting to see whats in it that makes it work and the trick used to get around the ATF and NFA laws

 

I was excited to jump all over this but it seems to be out of stock in every suburb I have checked