Bilstein vs Fox!!

I have not run bils but I luv the fox on everything so far, I'm 3rd gen and have them at 2". 2nd gen will get 3". Same same.

$1,996 880-06-418 Rear Coilover Shock Absorbers Fits Toyota Tacoma

880-06-418 in front and 985-26-118 in back. Excellent set up.

 

Ive been looking at the fox level 1 all day long. Debating putting this kit on my wife's new 4runner. There is a little bit of information on t4r.org but not much in terms of review.

 

LR UCAs will work perfectly. They have plenty of articulation in the ball joint to handle the ET's.

 

Pretty rough IMO and you lose the full articulation of the suspension. It's up to you and it's your truck.

 

What do you have the coils adjusted to?

 

Don’t put a spacer that’s a waste. Set your truck to 3” and adjust for the lean. 3” of lift is nothing on the stock truck and doesn’t stress anything much more then the previous set up. Where the issues come into play is when the alignment takes place. Depending on your truck you’ll need a lot more caster to not rub and have your full turn. This is why most lifts do upper arms to give that extra. Your casters going to be set in the high 4’s even tho a machine is going to show its in the red and out of spec. But most techs don’t understand this and can only understand “green” means good. Make sure after your lift it’s takin to someone who understands. Your caster will be high and your camber 0’d. Your back cams need to be maxed out and adjust the front to best get it where the truck needs.

 

Will the Fox kit give you the Taco lean?

 

Everything I have found the fox can only do 2.5 inches hence why I was thinking a spacer

 

I didn't adjust them at all from the factory. My goal was wheel travel, not increased ride height. With the skids, sliders, and bumper/winch I'm about 2" above stock ride height.

 

I'm incredibly pleased with how my Fox experience has been. I went with the 2.5" extended travel front and back with piggyback and DSC combined with the OME regular leaf pack the ride is actually amazing. Rip off the sway bar and get some Uni-ball UCAs if you wanna go full retard. I can't recommend this setup enough... even with the coils pretty cranked down it rides pretty damn good. But maybe I'm just easily impressed by ride quality since my last 4x4 was an XJ

 

It's a coilover so easily adjusted to correct taco lean

 

Nah push them up. 2.5 is them being safe to say. The more you push the more you’ll feel but a spacer is the same thing. Your shoving something in the tower that shouldn’t be there. The more you add to a truck the more room for error and issue. I’ve put spacers on trucks like your saying and honestly I can’t feel a difference.

 

Buy your fox(way better build and reliability) run them until your can get a set of upper arms. I’ve put on Kings, Fox’s, bil’s, AdS, bds, toy tecs, OME’s and they all are comparable. Personally kings and ADS dominate IN MY OPINION. Fox are nice too but I’d run kings for the price. If I was ballin on a budget I’d choose the fox’s Your getting in that kit. I run the 2.0’s in my rear and love them. Fronts with fox t I’ve put on many of trucks and think they run tits. I say shoot for fox and once you get them one be ready to save more because that’s just the start of your suspension system (you’ll want more) it’s an addictive thing. I built trucks for years and kept my tacoma stock and then I finally broke down and bought my rears and loved them and bought my front quickly after with arms and all and now only six months later going full total chaos uppers and lowers and sending out my front to be rebuilt.

 

Looks like I’m going to do fox2.0 and get as close as I can to 3 up front. Fox 2.0 with progressive 1.5 AAL and spc control arms. Think that should be a good set up? And hopefully level?

 

SPC’s are nice because you can adjust your cast up before you put them on. If your doing 3” set them +1 and get them on and when on the alignment machine max your rear tabs. Adjust your tie rods, re sweep. Adjust front again to max caster as need and then get your camber as close to 0 as possible on the positive side. You can then use a 32 socket and loosen where the balljoint connects to your spindle and slide it up or down to give positive or negative cam to the truck and BAM! Good to go. Your shooting for +4.4-4.7 cast and 0 cam. Rear tabs SHOULD BE FIRST AND MAXED(outwards to the tires) And all others (tierods,UCA, front tabs) adjust to them. If your tech can’t do it then he’s not knowledge enough to be doing your alignment.

 

Think they make some caps for those upper arms so dirt don’t get in them like that.

 

x2 on this, if your the occasional weekend worrier like myself, billies are fine, if you plan to get into more hardcore off roading, kings. Or if you just have the coin, kings any ways

 

The SPC LR UCA's can do 80 degrees of articulation. I believe that's more than any uniball as far as I know. The uniball is said to be stouter but that comes with more maintenance.

 

I wouldnt crank up past 2.5 to much preload will ride like crap. Just throwing this out there you could do a one in body lift an get your 3in you desire with the plush ride.