06 Frame boxing

Am I the only one that thinks it's crazy that he paid someone to install the drop bracket lift, and now he's furious that he's going to have to pay someone to install the drop bracket lift again, yet, he's all gung ho to weld steel plates for 2 months on a rotted frame?

So, his alternative is to strong arm the dealer into installing it for free even if they don't have a clue what they're doing.

Am I missing something here?

 

Yeah you’re missing a lot. I’m not going thru the whole speel of it but bad run ins and service steered me away from the dealers. You all have steered me back so I’m trying to work it to my advantage. What else you want to know?

 

So now you want a new frame?

 

I paid a company to put the drop bracket lift in under a warranty 6 years ago. Now that it’s out of warranty it would be my or the dealers turn if I replaced the frame. The thought of the dealer doing it turns my stomach but I keep getting the majority here that I’m crazy and should take the new frame. I’m not sure how bad the frame actually goes. I found two places and that could be it as far as I know but it could not be also. That doesn’t make the frame unsalvageable. So as concerned as you are @Muddinfun that’s the story so far. Clear it up for you?

 

Depends, guy was pretty reasonable earlier in his feedback saying new frame then box after and check their work as I go. Kinda got me thinking. Gonna see how it all plays out.

 

@Yotawv, I sincerely hope you are able to get a new frame. Even if you have to install the DB lift yourself. You may only see a couple spots on the frame now. However, it would be easy to say that if it is rotten through in a couple spots, the metal between other joints is rotten and may be separating internally.
Unfortunately, having the dealer install the DB kit is pretty much out of the question because that would be a liability they will not take on.

 

O.P.Since you are keeping your old frame,I would be in too taking the new frame off your hands,just let the dealer transfer it too me,there wouldn't be any charge too you .

 

Here’s the deal, it just basically came down to the fact of paying for everything twice, forking out the extra money to roll the truck out on stock wheels and tires then scrounging up the extra cash to have the lift reinstalled then have to relook everything over because the dealer has already done their 100k mile tune ups and fucked those up by leaving out bolts here and there. I just lost all faith in them a long time ago I can only imagine them disassembling the entire thing. I wasn’t willing to go thru with that nightmare when I could watch my frame and fix the patches at the time as needed.

Well I waited alittle long this time on watching my frame and had some spots pop up. No I do not know the extensiveness of the rust because I haven’t dug any deeper. I can’t call the frame bad because I haven’t looked it all completely over. Couple spots to me aren’t anything. I’ve had buddy’s with Jeeps way way past this and we’ve fixed them and built new frame sections. Boxed and plated. Cut out and replaced. Been all thru that. This whole thread got blown out all over the place because I guess I went about it all wrong and should’ve just asked for people who have beefed up their 2nd gen frames

 

And I guess since I gotta clarify everything on here for the trolls (@Muddinfun ). Yes at the time I first turned the frame down, I was going to have to pay someone to put on the lift because I didn’t have a garage or the setup capabilities I do now at my finger tips and they did it under warranty

 

So you can fix a completely rusted out frame,but you cant do a simple Drop Bracket cut and reweld,that does not make any sense.Why would you have too pay someone too reinstall the drop bracket if you yourself can weld up /repair/repaint/recoat a rusted out frame

 

Holy shit read the next comment below that one I left lol come on

 

@lynlan1819 I didn’t just recently turn down the frame replacement that was when the first recalls were announced. Today is the first time since I did turn it down actually go talk to the dealership again after finding the issue (rust holes) last night. The only reason I went and talked to them was thanks to you all which may work out the way I wanted it to when they first announced the recalls.

No I don’t want the dealership working on my truck but maybe you all have a point I’m crazy not to take it and maybe I can work the deal to my favor.

So yes I’m considering it against my own judgement. And do the lift if I have to

I can box the frame afterwards like I originally intended in this thread. Maybe if I get the new frame then you all can post people and their pics of their frames for those who have beefed up their 2nd gens like I wanted to begin with not questioning my capabilities because I didn’t list my life story with the truck and failed to solely devote my time to explain entirely every possiblity of questions you all would ask

 

Get the frame swap.

 

Don't know why you are getting upset. I get it the dealership sucks, but your aren't gonna "beef up" a pile of rust (from the pics anyway), don't care what shop you have access to. I'd take the frame and run with it (if it's not to late to do so, otherwise your SOL), if you do have these shop capabilities, it shouldn't cost you anything but sweat to reinstall all your mods and beef up a nice shiny frame. And I think we all are still here confused as to why it's a great effort to install these mods again when you want advise on salvaging a rusted out frame. I think people would help with the frame reinforcements once there is a frame to reinforce.

Good luck OP, hope it all works out!

 

For what it's worth, the certified techs don't do oil changes, tire rotation, or alignments, and sometimes they don't even do brake jobs, that menial labor is handed down to the "lube techs" or lube liners.

The dealer I worked for had 21 bays, 14 were real certified Toyota techs, the other 7 were the lube line, pretty much just bums who wanted to make a few bucks that day. They did nothing but oil changes and tire rotations. Easy to see how methy over there couldn't remember to put the drain plug back, or how pimple face couldn't look up from his phone long enough to tighten all the lug nuts.

Essentially there's two levels of service at a dealer.

A frame swap on the other hand is going to be in the hands of a real technician, not to say they don't make mistakes but you would be in better hands.

 

Bro. If you haven't been able to install a db lift, re-constituting a frame ain't happening. Check out the long travel threads where socal trucks with frames that are spotless get boxed in. It's still a ton of work - I get the point of having a dream, but it's reality that this isn't going to take place the way you want it if you have a hard time seeing a clear path to the logical answer of getting a new frame and then doing whatever the hell you want to it. If you're so good at this stuff then spotting some minor mistakes by the techs installing the frame should be no sweat. I'm not trying to be harsh on purpose - it is just called for so you don't waste your money. That said sometimes the only way to learn is the hard way - been there myself

 

Who hasn’t be able to install the DB lift? Man you guys gotta go back read this stuff, I had the company (not a dealership, local customs place) I ordered the lift thru put the lift on under a warranty. Now that the warranty is out and I’m in this frame situation. If I have the frame redone I will be putting the lift back on

 

I never said it was some big problem with restallation of my mods. My bitch was about doing things twice and not wanting to. But yeah I’ve got a meeting today about my frame to see what kind of deal I can work out, and I’m going from there now. Enough guys told me to take it that I called yesterday again and set up another meeting since the initial recall. So yeah that’s where I’m at, at this point

 

Hope you can get it replaced, I can understand having to do things twice being a pain.

 

Yeah I mean putting a brand new lift on is one thing, putting a lift on that’s been wheeled. Has 100k miles on it. Been cut off an existing frame. Just turns into alittle more of a headache. I’ve always said and been told by my father take your time do it right and do it once.

Now that I’m considering the new frame all over it’s hard to tell how the dealer is going to cut it off for me if they’ll return all my critical parts I’ll need or if I’ll be doing an inventory and trying to hunt down bits and pieces. That’s the headache I wanted to avoid all together. Atleast originally when I turned it down and said hey you guys do my lift then it’s on them if they screw it up. Now if they cut it wrong I’ll be fabing shit to make it work. I don’t like that.

I guess it’s inevitable with these bad frames, but that’s why I was trying to avoid it by just replating, boxing and cutting myself. I’ve had two things wrong with this truck the entire 7 years and 200k miles. One I blew up my ring and pinion in my third member and now the second being the frame. I can’t really bitch. I’ve never even had to change the alternator yet which I can remember pretty routinely doing when I was younger on the chevys. I’ve changed 2 u joints the carrier and wheel bearings. Had two 100k mile tune ups with all oem parts put back in and on. Belts etc. so I can’t bitch when I finally have something broken.

But like I said I don’t like doing things twice. Big pet peev