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Want a factory diesel for your Tacoma? Here it is. (not a joke)

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by BamaToy1997, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. Jan 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM
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    This doesn't surprise me one bit... :)
    Toyota is notorious for multiple parts applications. Just an example... the shifter off my 1996 fit my 2012 perfectly. This is consistently using exactly the same part for a period of 17 years... and I really like that practical frugal approach in a company. :thumbsup:


    While I'm not into diesels, 260 foot pounds of torque at only 1,800 rpms is truly impressive. Nevertheless, I'm happy to get 160 foot pounds at 2,900 rpms with a small normally aspirated gasser.







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  2. Jan 8, 2014 at 3:04 PM
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  3. Jan 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM
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    A lot of this stuff is scattered around here and all over. The current Hilux is based on the IMV, same as the Fortuner (SUV), Innova and Avanza (mini vans). The Tacoma is based on the Prado 120 platform, same as the Prado, 4Runner, FJ Cruiser, GX470. The IMV platform seems to be the way Toyota is consolidating light trucks and minivans in most countries, so production can be seamless throughout the bulk of their non-North American plants.

    http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/strategy/imv/index.html

    IMV XtraCab Hilux 4WD:
    WB: 3085mm (121.5")
    Length: 5255mm (206.9")
    Width: 1835mm (72.2")
    Height: 1795mm (70.7")
    Track (F/R): 1540mm/1540mm (60.6")
    Weight: 1710 kg (3,770 lbs)
    GVW: 2600 kg (5,730 lbs)
    Min ground clearance: 212mm (8.3")
    Approach angle: 30 deg.
    Departure angle: 23 deg.
    Tray Length: 1805mm (71.1")
    Tray Width (overall): 1515mm (59.6")
    Tray Height: 450mm (17.7")
    Turning Circle: 12.2m (40.0 ft)

    IMV is produced in Tailand, Indonesia, Philippines (the bulk of Asian parts come from TMP and TAP), Argentina and India. I don't think the Hilux is still made at either Tahara, Aichi, where the 4Runner is assembled, or the Hamura Hino plant, where the FJ Cruiser is made. Hino stopped making Hilux trucks at the Hamura plant in June 2005, that I do know.

    Toyota Motors Thailand (TMT) started production of the Hilux in Aug 2004. IMV production in Indonesia (TIMMIN) looks to have started in Sept 2004, production of the Hilux in India (Toyota Kirloskar Motor, TKM) seems to have started in Feb. 2005. Hilux production at TASA (Argentina) in March 2005. IMV production in South Africa (TSAM) in April 2005. Parts do come from all over the place, too.


    Tacoma AccessCab 4WD:
    WB: 127.8"
    Length: 208.1"
    Width: 74.6"
    Height: 69.9"
    Track (F/R): 63.0"/63.4"
    Weight: 3965 lbs
    GVW: 5,350 lbs
    Running ground clearance (F/R): 9.5"/9.4"
    Approach angle: 35 deg.
    Departure angle: 26 deg.
    Break-over: 21 deg.
    Bed Length: 73.5"
    Bed Width (overall/between wheels): 56.7"/41.5"
    Bed Height: 18"
    Turning Circle: 40.7 ft.

    Plants in Fremont, CA (NUMMI); Baja California, Mexico (TMMBC).
     
  4. Jan 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM
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    There are definitely differences between the Tacoma and Hilux frames. They are likely close enough that the diesel motor could be made to fit in a Tacoma, but would probably need custom motor mounts. A drivetrain swap would surely be possible but it would absolutely NOT be a direct bolt-in affair.
     
  5. Jan 8, 2014 at 4:11 PM
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    But to the OP, I'm more than happy to have you prove me wrong. Pick up a diesel and bolt it in. Let's see how it goes.
     
  6. Jan 8, 2014 at 4:58 PM
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    I think as far a motor mounts go they would both be similar. The 4.0 in the Tacoma is available along with the 3.0 D-4D in many other Toyota models outside of the U.S
     
  7. Jan 8, 2014 at 8:28 PM
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    Hey I have no interest at all in putting a diesel in. Besides, mine is a 1st gen, and I was referring to the 2nd gen really. I just thought will so much talk about wanting a Diesel in the Tacoma, this was an interesting find.
     
  8. Jan 8, 2014 at 8:34 PM
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    While I do see that there is some difference in the Tacoma and Hilux for the 2005 and up model years, you can see that the Tacoma and Hilux were pretty much IDENTICAL for the 1995.5-2004 model year as shown in this photo of a Hilux. I have seen so many of these Tacoma/Hilux pictures before, and did not realize that in 2005 When both the Tacoma and Hilux went through a generation change, that the Hilux went in a different direction.

    [​IMG]

    The Tacoma is only in it's second generation. The Hilux is now in it's SEVENTH generation!
     
  10. Jan 9, 2014 at 2:27 PM
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    So I had lunch today with the owner of Cruiser Outfitters. He's got a lot of first hand knowledge of both versions of the trucks and there are most definitely differences between the chassis making it more than a direct "bolt-in" swap to change the drivetrains. However, if it doesn't scare you to have to move motor mounts and rework some wiring, then the swap is doable. It's been done before. One plus side is that the Non-US Hilux has a stronger frame that is fully boxed rather than a partially boxed frame on US models. However, it brings up another topic. Cost/reward?


    What would be the goal of the swap? If it's better fuel economy of the diesel, you won't get a huge jump in MPG. Realistically it will cost someone $10K to do the swap if you can do the work yourself. The shops that are doing the swaps currently have a pricetag closer to $20K if you need someone else to do the work. It would take a LOOOONG time to recoup the cost of the swap in fuel savings to make it worth it.


    If doing the swap is just for the "cool" factor of having a diesel motor, well then there's not much I can say.
     
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  11. Jan 18, 2014 at 10:34 AM
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    The hilux to this day still uses the 4.0l v6 1grfe same as the tacomas in the USA or you can get the option of a 2.5 or 3.0 diesel motor. This would make the motor a bolt in solution. Obviously there are other differences such as wiring and ecus and what not but very similar platforms if you compare v6 to v6 models.
     
  12. Jan 19, 2014 at 9:18 AM
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    The question isn't about swapping V6 -> V6, but V6 -> Diesel. Motor mounts are not the same with kills the "bolt-in" nature of the swap. The swap can still be done. It's not that hard to weld in new motor mounts, but it's much different than something like bolting in a different set of leaf springs.
     
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    I know this is an old thread but I stumbled into here researching for my 1KD swap. Which if anyone knows a customs broker that is familiar with importing halfcuts shoot me a PM please.

    This is a 2003 Hilux in the UK:
    20140117_124715_zpsbc1e6a49_bb1309a19630d5a1b861136450d65530524ebfe3.jpg

    Look closely and you will see the old torsion bar setup, right side diff drop and gas tank is on the right side. this is the frame North America saw from 86-95 in the Trucks and 4Runners. And this truck has the 2KD-FTV D4D engine in it. That engine and the 1KD engine share the same block as the 1KZ which was found in the earlier hilux/4Runner/pickup.

    Full build thread here:
    http://www.yotatech.com/f200/sienas-toyota-hilux-gen-6-make-over-3uz-fe-vvti-swap-280742/
     
  14. May 10, 2018 at 6:44 AM
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