Unsafe throttle response when using cruise control?

"And due to this this is what we can now all expect from our $39,000 + vehicles "

"..I said your saying thats normal and acceptable for a $39,000 to $43,000 vehicle of todays design and technology?"

I find it entertaining when people use the vehicle price as leverage to validate a preference disguised as an alleged vehicle problem.
For the record, if i'm looking to pass someone i'd downshift and give the loud pedal a good push to get around them quickly.

 

Validation comes in all shapes and self inflated sizes. Price, job, looks, size, etc. It's usually indignation...

 

I have my Tacoma and a 1965 C-10. I drive a 2014 Ram 4500 ambulance and a 2015 Smeal 2000gpm pumper at one job, and a 1998 Sterling dump truck with a 60,000lb GVWR and 8LL transmission at the other. NONE of these vehicles drive the same, nor do I expect them to.

You have to know what you're driving and how to drive it.

 

Some of you guys need to breathe . I have own 6 other Toyota's and I can tell you not one of them has a throttle response as this truck.

My point is whether by design or not (bad design as far as i'm concerned, strictly an opinion and no i'm not an engineer, lol) if your not expecting this lack of response when you mash the pedal it has the potential of being dangerous.

 

But you're expecting it now. Can you not roll with it?

I had a Dakota with a 3.7 that was weak as crap. So I got rid of it. Is that a viable option for you?

 

Yes, now that I know its nature, I can plan for it, but that part of my issue.

And I hear everyone that screams its the way it is and suck it up, understand fully your side of the aisles. I would expect a smoother seamless transition when I press on the pedal. And no I don't expect to have to mash it to the floor to get a response.

Thanks for all the great helpful comments guys, much appreciated...much appreciated.

 

We had a Ford F-450 powerstroke ambulance at work. You'd press the gas and it'd start to move, then the turbo would wrap up and it would throw you back in the seat. Some of us learned to give it gas then lift off briefly... one shift didn't and had to park it after spinning out in the snow. Our Division Chief drives an F-150 with a really really sensitive throttle and you'll spin the tires if you're not careful.

I can understand why you'd expect it to drive another way but it doesn't and you have to relearn it. If it makes you that mad, get rid of it...

And buy the MT!

 

Dude. Seriously. A friend of mine has a Hellcat. I drove it. Please don't talk about having to to give your truck a bit more gas to make it go. The Hellcat can kill you in a parking lot if you don't know what you are doing.
Another friend has an old 4Runner 4cyl. I drove it too. Didn't have enough power to get out of it's way. Going up hills was dangerous because 55 mph was top speed.

Get my drift?

 

Don't hate it at all, just don't care for the way it drives lol.

 

Okay well can you trade it?

 

I've gotta ask, what else have you been to the dealer about?

 

So you are trying to justify you not liking it by calling it unsafe? Really?

 

I skimmed through the whole thread, if all the Tacoma’s act like this, then it is what it is type of deal, so your next move would be how to make it act the way you want, I saw that nobody suggested keeping your ECT on while in cruise control, not gas friendly, but you already have it. Second option is slap on a Pedal Commander, and only turn it on as you see fit, such as when in cruise control. It’ll map the response differently so your not having to mash the pedal to get it to downshift and respond...

 

OP, how many miles does your truck have?

I know you're asking about how it has affected your cruise control, but I ask because when the computer was learning my driving habits pre 2,000 miles on the od, it did "hiccup" a couple of times, and both times in the same location, and much like you described. For those of you in the San Fernando Valley that are familiar with the "dragstrip," you'll get a good idea of what I mean. On both occasions, OP, I was making a left turn onto Topanga Canyon Blvd from Mulholland (look it up on your google map to get a good idea).

Plenty of room to stretch those 3.5 legs. As soon as I was ready to straighten up out of the turn I gave it enough pedal to downshift. Nothing. Bewildered, I fucking floored it like I was running a BIG Husky hot saw. At WOT, I was expecting a downshift and some fast stuff..nope, nothing but a gradual gain in speed until WHOA!. And that WHOA came late enough!!!!! That moment sure was a downer. But I wasn't even ready to come and ask about it here because I knew it was possibly still learning. A few days later the same thing happened again. Only this time it was straight to WOT. That sure as heck downed me big time. But I thought, I'm still going to give it some time after reading about how the system works. Well, it has only happened on those two occasions, and oddly enough in the same location that has a gradual incline.

Fast forward to 3,300 miles. Now that the computer has learned some, in the same location, I can lightly press the pedal and have no downshift, with a smooth gradual performance to the next gear for what is expected. I've also tested half throttle and it will down shift and get going for what is expected. And I've also tested WOT which lifts the entire front end. A lot like my 63 C10 step side does it. And that expectation is rather cool to experience.

It'll get there for you if the truck still has low mileage on it.

 

Yes, the truck still has low miles on it, 2700. And each time the battery is disconnected (dead cell right after buying the truck, dealer replaced, and one other time battery was disconnected) it starts the learning process over or at least it seems to as it a different feel to it.

Some days it drives nice and the next it's like a slug.

I don't alway baby the throttle as some here seem to accuse (as if their in the seat next to me).

 

Not on Cruz control. My work vehicle a Dodge Durango SSV
When you floor it to pass or get through an intersection or evade quickly, you better call in for reservations on that throttle because that bitch is slow to respond. Hate it.

 

That's your problem. It's still learning, particularly disconnecting the battery. I wouldn't be surprised if you disconnected it later on to try and cure the problem, prolonging the situation(s). Like you said, back to step one. Give it more time, don't do anything stupid that involves the gas pedal as far as passing someone on the highway or merging until the ECU knows what you want. You will begin to feel the 3's soon enough, cruise control included. Light pedal push, no drop in gear, a good gradual performance to the next gear. Medium pedal push, a drop in gear, gets moving nicely. And finally, WOT and the WHOA feeling. And that doesn't include a normal launch from a stop. The Taco has plenty of torque to get it moving awesome in city streets with moderate input. Most particularly in the rain...and in 4HI...you're first at a stop light...and with a Tesla behind you...and leaving it behind big time as you watch it get sideways I'm stoked about the 3rd Gem.

BTW, I didn't smash the pedal all the time for the computer to learn, because the only bad deal with that, city driving wise, was the sound of the motor attracting the heat that lurks here in the SFV. Fuck that. So I drove it normally, and now enjoy a mid size truck that I believe has a sweet drivetrain.

 

I will probably need this so I’m putting it on first for saying the following- I just tried exactly what the OP described and there’s no way his issue is within normal specs- my engine responded immediately and accelerated, even with a very soft pedal push. OP- Id take it in to a different shop for testing.

 

Thanks for a little confirmation, be careful in agreeing or showing some support my way lol.