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Easy method to grease the clutch fork ball

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by iroh, Oct 7, 2015.

  1. Oct 7, 2015 at 11:00 PM
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    iroh

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    I hate squeaking. It makes my Toyota sound like a (insert your despised domestic of choice). I really had hoped I had this licked when I pulled the tranny off last year and got the fork/ball/new throwout bearing all clean and greased. Well, gosh darn it, 10k miles later and my moly grease was apparently not up to par.

    Note, this is for the super duper clutch squeak that some of us get; not that wimpy creaking that comes from the plastic on the pedal under the dash, like so:

    (video from last year, but it sounded almost this bad again already)

    https://youtu.be/1AWqhYEu_zY

    Woah, not the way I like my truck to turn heads. I could hear it with every shift... how annoying! Let's fix it.


    Things needed:
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    -grease rag
    -good grease in a tub or tube. I'm trying high-temp wheel bearing grease this time
    -drinking straw, get one for free next time you go to Mickey Ds
    -scissors
    -portable light if you're doing it in the driveway at 1am like me
    -I can't stand beer but some people work better with it


    So first thing to do is make sure the truck won't roll over you so chock a wheel, set the ebrake, and put it in gear. Engine off, duh! Grab that ratchet and crawl under the truck behind the driver's side front tire. The top of the clutch slave cylinder has 2 bolts on the top you can't really see, take 'em out and move the slave cylinder out of the way a bit. The clutch line can bend a little but don't get carried away.

    With that out of the way, take off the rubber dust boot that's around the fork. You should be left with this:


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    Ack. Dry already.


    Take that straw and cut the end twice with the scissors, like so

    [​IMG]

    Then dip it 1/4" into your tub or tube of grease. That gives you a small blob of grease inside the straw to work with. You shouldn't need (or want) too much in there.

    Note we're not using spray grease. Bad stuff to be spraying around the clutch! Hence the straw.

    I held the fork away from the ball with one hand and snuck the business end of that straw between the two with the other. That ball is only in about 2" from the opening so it's not difficult. Move it around a bit like a paintbrush to get better coverage, then pinch it between 'em and pull to squeeze the rest out. Move the fork back and forth a bunch of times to make sure it's spread well on the ball.

    The straw works great because it can bend into the space you need the grease to go, it's dirt cheap, and you'd have to be really silly to somehow lose it in the bell housing.

    Put the boot back on, put a small dab of grease into the pocket on the end of the fork for the slave's ball (prevents rust), bolt the slave cylinder back up, and enjoy the squeak free ride.

    Easy peasy! Silent shifting again.

    That sure felt like a long write-up for a 15 minute job... oh well, feels good having it fixed (again).
     
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  2. Oct 30, 2015 at 10:56 PM
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    Thanks for the post. This looks easy to do. I will try it before it starts raining here.
     
  3. May 29, 2016 at 5:41 PM
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    Hey Iroh,

    I had the dealership grease my fork ball under their good will policy about 4 months ago. They used some special grease Toyota had used for the under-cariage of a Prius. It lasted 4 months. I'm about to use your method to re-grease, did your high-temp wheel bearing grease do the trick?

    Utah
     
  4. Nov 12, 2016 at 10:44 PM
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    Yes. Almost a year later the fork was still totally silent. Apparently the grease I had used in '14 when I pulled the tranny was too thin as that stayed quiet about 3 months. The red wheel bearing grease was much better.
     
  5. Jan 11, 2017 at 1:15 AM
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    Sweet. I had been using fluid film which would last about a month each time - I'll try this when the squeak comes back!
     
  6. Jan 14, 2017 at 4:47 PM
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    If you can find it I'd run some NLGI 3 grease it is much thicker and stays better. If you're in cold climate then run NLGI 2 high temp. I have a preference to Mystic grease the JT-6 high temp NLGI 2 is top notch and has a high drop out temp and low washout characteristics.
     
  7. Jan 24, 2017 at 3:35 PM
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    Still running quiet? I need a permanent fix to this damn noise
     
  8. Jan 24, 2017 at 3:57 PM
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    Buy an automatic
     
  9. Jan 24, 2017 at 4:44 PM
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    But shifting gears is just too much fun
     
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  10. Jan 24, 2017 at 4:54 PM
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    It sure is!

    Yeah, it's just something that needs routine maintenance like lubing door hinges and locks. It sucks, but it doesn't take too much effort to get some sort of lube in the assembly.
     
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    Even using fluid film once a month has been nice - not that much effort. Makes the whole transmission respond way faster in gear changes too since it's a smooth operation.
     
  12. Jan 25, 2017 at 12:03 AM
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    I think im going to do it tomorrow, looks pretty easy
     
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  13. Jan 25, 2017 at 12:24 AM
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    It made the truck fun to drive again for me - hope it works well for you!
     
  14. Jan 26, 2017 at 4:51 PM
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    Jut did it, took about 15 minutes and the squeak is gone...now lets see how long it lasts
     
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    I used PTFE-impreganted grease and a bamboo skewer a couple of years ago and the squeak hasn't returned.
     
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    Y'all should really try some thicker grease.
     
  17. Jun 20, 2018 at 2:34 PM
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    anybody have any luck with a long term fix? Been having to redo this every couple months and getting really tired of it.
     
  18. Jun 20, 2018 at 5:55 PM
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    hate to say it but.... AT
     
  19. Jun 20, 2018 at 6:27 PM
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    I guess I'll buy more grease haha. 5 speed for the win!
     
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