Bolt on miss for horsepower increase 3 gen

I left the 2nd part of your post out because it wasn't useful or relevant...just like the first part of your post.
"The motor isn't seeing more air"...are you high? If you've got "several degrees in engineering" you'd know simply by checking the MAF that more air is being introduced to the throttle body. As the airflow rate increases, the demand for fuel increases, so more fuel is dumped. You don't need an engineering degree to figure that out.

Bolt-ons alone will give you power. The end result of HOW MUCH power is based on factors such as ECU compensation, octane, and timing as it directly relates to the octane. On these trucks, the gains aren't as large as a Subaru WRX- but there are gains to be had. There's dyno sheets to prove it, right on this forum. I even posted a link in my previous post.

By your logic, I'm going to go ahead and guess that your engineering degrees are probably from University of Phoenix.
You should probably talk to people who know a lot more about tuning and how these motors work such as @Torspd ,@MrCrowntown ,@MadTaco461 and others.

I'm done here. Arguing with idiots is useless. They'll beat you with experience.

 

Technically I bolted this on.... I’m expecting to double my horsepower

 

He's right! But at the same time wrong. I had 3 Vettes. My 90 ran 15.3s in the 1/4 stock, By the time I got done with all the "bolt ons" I was down to a 13.0 in the 1/4. Nothing to the pistons, cam, or heads was ever done. So you can not tell me the things I did, did nothing!

But the amount of effort this guy would have to do with this truck to get a gain imo is just not worth it.

 

my track car is a 350 HP CooperS.....turbo at 20PSI, 100 shot nitrous injection, water alcohol injection.....tuned and running at a 10:1 AFR

none of the bolt on shit added any power what so ever......hence the need to the turbo, and nitrous injection.......

and if i need help wiring my headlights ill call an EE.

 

i honestly have a hard time believing a pod filter and an exhaust shaved 2 seconds off a 1/4.....

 

no.....you left if off because you know im right......more air isnt going to the MAF unless the MOTOR pulls more air.....or more air is FORCED into the motor.....apparently you do need an engineering degree to figure THAT out.

the only way bolt ons are going to give you more power....is if the factory components are so poorly designed that they are robbing power from the motor......in our case, and in pretty much the case of every car made in the last 30 years....thats not the happening......toyota engineers arent morons, they arent going to put an intentionally restrictive intake or exhaust on the cars.........why would the purposely cripple MPG and HP ratings?.....especially with the current demand to boost MPG ratings

 

You're right, but I never said I did a pod filter and exhaust. Come on man you have 3 degrees...read. Part of what I did was a filter, and an custom exhaust. No bolt on over priced exhaust either, and a whole lot more.

And it was 2.3 seconds lol. Should of seen what it's 60 foot times were lol

 

leaving your post intentionally vague....especially within the confines of the conversation....people are going to assume thats what you meant

 

No I think just you would.

 

Eh, not worth the energy.

 

You're still not getting it, but that's okay.

I tried, but you just can't fix stupid.

 

You are both right. It’s just more to the equation why an aftermarket exist. There is probably a slight bit of efficiency getting rid of the air baffles in the intake. Also cost of manufacturing an equal length header.

 

pal......its pretty simple.....the fact that i am having to explain this to what i am assuming is a grown man is kinda sad....


the motor can only draw so much air per each stroke of the piston.....the MAF reads how much air is going in....adds the appropriate amount of fuel to get a stoich AFR....and the engine combusts that.....have i lost you so far?

now heres where it gets tricky...so pay attention.

if you want to make more HP.....you have to add more fuel.....ok pretty simple.....but if you start dumping more fuel in.....you also have to add more air.....hmmmm heres the issue.

that piston is only so large.....and the amount of air it can draw in with each rotation is dependent on its diameter and stroke length....its a fixed value...so if you want that motor to draw more air, you need to bore the motor for larger pistons.....or stroke it.

the other option you have is to force air into the motor......compressing the air allows for a higher air density.....which allows for more fuel......so you have to add forced induction.

like i said......the only way a pod filter is going to "add HP" is if the factory unit is artificially clogging the air flow......and thats not the case.

 

Only posting here, so that the links to my Dyno threads are lit up from the obscure abyss of the interwebz.

 

Fake news.

 

you can pull power with bolt ons but on a n/a application your power gains wont really be worth the cost of the bolt ons, speaking from personal experience of dropping thousands on bolt ons for my lexus. in the end you might as well just save up for boost

 

I had no idea after I put it on it really just made the truck louder, but I need to do a dyno test with my truck. I may add a Doug thorley header and magnaflow exhaust later.