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3" Lift Kit

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Jclifford0428, Jun 3, 2018.

  1. Jun 3, 2018 at 3:31 PM
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    Jclifford0428

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    I have been looking at lift kits for the past week and can't figure out exactly what to get. I keep reading that you need to do it right the first time. This is my daily driver truck. I won't be doing alot of off-roading. I was hoping someone might be able to steer me in the right direction for brands and parts to get .Thank you.
     
  2. Jun 11, 2018 at 3:47 PM
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    Honestly I wouldnt invest the money if your not going to offroad it that much.
     
  3. Jun 24, 2018 at 6:46 AM
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    honestly it really depends on how much you wanna spend

    for DD and light off roading(rough dirt trails, mud bog, rugged terrain)....spacer lifts work just fine.

    you will need the following:
    • Front and rear spacers
    • Rear Shocks
    • Extended rear u-bolts
    • Front differential drop spacers
    • Front bump stop spacers - IMPORTANT!
    • Swaybar relocation spacers
    • Skid plate spacers
    • carrier bearing drop
    • Extended brake lines - OPTIONAL BUT RECOMMENDED
    the benefit to spacers is they are MUCH cheaper than new springs and coilovers.......AND they retain all factory suspension components, meaning if you need to replace a shock, or replace a leaf spring, you can get them much cheaper than the custom "lifted" spring....

    expect to spend ~$500 if you can do it yourself.


    If you are planning on doing more serious off roading, i would recommend a "full suspension" kit.....as you will get more articulation out of the suspension, and they will hold up better to harsher trails than the factory components.
     
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  4. Jun 24, 2018 at 7:10 AM
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    Middle of road idea for 2" lift

    $862.00 before toytec discount

    5100 shocks set to zero in the front
    Eibach E30-82-069-02-20 front coils (2" lift)
    Lean spacer for drivers side only

    Icon progressive add a leaf (and new u bolts) ...about 2"
    Rear 5100 shocks

    No need for a diff drop
    Dont need new uca
    Dont need extended brake lines
    Dont need bumpstop spacers
    Dont need skidplate spacers
    Dont need a swaybar relocate bracket

    My truck rides smoother than stock, carries a load just fine, alignment is in spec, 5100 shocks have lifetime warranty, the progressive add a leaf helps take care of axle wrap
    An add a leaf doesnt accelerate the weakening of the leafpack like blocks do.

    Daily driver
     
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  5. Jun 24, 2018 at 7:22 AM
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    I would do fatbobs coilovers set to 2” for front and leave the rear alone.

    No diff drop
    No sway bar drop
    No brake lines
    No ucas
    No modifying skid

    When you step up to 3” lift is when you start needing all that.

    And if you decide to go 3” in the future you can just adjust the coilovers and add the other components and then lift the rear 1~1.5”


    Best deal out there IMO at $500...($450 right now with coupon)
    http://4x4.fatbobsgarage.com/mobile/toyota-tacoma-3-adjustable-coilovers-2005-2018-p23246.aspx
     
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  6. Jun 24, 2018 at 7:30 AM
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    yeah....lift block absolutely do not weaken leaf springs........
     
  7. Jun 24, 2018 at 7:33 AM
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    :rofl:
    How bout dat axle wrap?
     
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    yeah if you stick a 6" lift block under there......but the amount if axle wrap you are going to get from a 2" block vs Stock is negligible.
     
  9. Jun 24, 2018 at 7:41 AM
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    Op, pls fill in your truck info so its easier to help you next time.
     
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    Actually it's quite noticeable. And the torsional force will weaken springs at a highly accelerated rate. That's why race trucks go axle over leaf.
     
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    what is that rate exactly?

    how much life is it taking off your leafsprings?

    because right now....youre basically telling me "you should never eat bacon because it will shorten your life span".......without ever telling me how much itll shorten my lifespan.....is it taking minutes off my life span? days? years?
     
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    It really depends on how you use your truck. If you have a concrete queen that spends all of life empty on flat ground then not much. But if you use it like a truck and haul and tow its gonna give you issues a lot quicker. I've been in the auto industry for 20 years and cant count the number of dearched springs I've seen on trucks with lift blocks.
     
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    ive seen dearched springs on trucks without lift blocks also.....whats your point?


    frankly youre telling me something is some massive problem.....but you cant quantify it in ANY way....
     
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    Well I cant fix stupid but I can diagnose it
     
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    Someone asking question that you can’t answer so you jump right to insults...... tells me a lot about your character... mainly that you don’t have any
     
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    My suggestion is to forget it. Avoid getting sucked in to the 'lift for looks' vortex. For a daily driver you gain nothing. But looks. And a lighter wallet.

    Now then.

    If you insist, consider lowering your goal. I'm not sure where 3" has started being the magic number, but it's well documented staying around 2 - 2.5" is the least problematic.

    I would suggest a call to Marie @HeadStrong Off-Road. Tell her your goals and budget, and install what she sends you.
     
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    For a more technical answer for you. When you move the axle away from the leaf spring you increase the leverage that the force from th pinion exerts on the leaf spring this causes more axle wrap or twist and will effectively shorten the life of your leaf springs. You had 5 different people try to tell you this and all you wanted to do was argue. When you ask for advise take what is given and dont insult people. Your comment prior to mine was as insulting as mine was. Aka dont be a dick
     
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    im not being a dick ass-hat.....ive been very polite asking you if you can quantify any of the BS youve been saying.....and you havent given an answer....me pointing out you havent given an answer isnt "disrespectful"......im sorry if your Ego is that fragile that someone pointing out how you havent made a point is "insulting"....maybe you should find a safe space.

    ive heard a lot of people repeat the same BS without knowing how or why they are saying what they are saying.....just "what they heard".......that doesnt make it true.

    the mechanics of what you are saying make sense.....HOWEVER.....does it actually make a fucking difference?

    if putting spacers on my leafsprings shortens their life by 10 miles......thats not a fucking issue to be concerned about.

    like i said, someone can tell me "eating bacon will shorten your life"......but if they cant tell me by how much....why should i listen?

    youve said it will "kill your leaf springs".....but you cant tell me by how much.......is it by 10 miles? 100 miles? 10000 miles?......"depends" isnt an answer.

    "youve seen cars with dearched springs".........ive seen them also.....spacers or no spacers.......ive also seen cars on spacers WITHOUT dearched springs.


    so unless you are going to come back with some sort of validation to back up your shit.....maybe you should try keeping your mouth shut and itll prevent you from looking like a moron in the future.
     
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    Well I'm not an engineer with the test equipment to give you an exact answer on how much life it takes off the leaf springs. Perhaps you should reach out an engineering firm and fund that research yourself. I've built many vehicle over the years and I can tell you from experience that either lift or lowering blocks will cause rapid deterioration of the leaf springs under aggressive driving situations. Not to mention the hours I've spent on the trail waiting for some one to figure out how to hook their axle back to their leaf springs because they had lift blocks and snapped the u bolts in half trying to crawl their concrete queen.
    I took your response as an insult and dont think I should have to lay out my background and qualifications in order to give advise on this forum. I'm not the one that looks like an ass... you are. Because you cant wrap your head around the reality that lifting a truck that already has axle wrap issues stock in a manner that will cause more axle wrap is a bad idea. Why do you think there is a recall on the leaf springs and that the leaf springs that always break are in front of the axle? One guess.... AXLE WRAP! It's a very well known issue in our trucks. save yourself the headache and either do an add a leaf or an entire leaf pack. Its literally that simple.
     
  20. Aug 17, 2018 at 6:44 PM
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    your entire post in one image
     
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