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Ch. 7 Bankruptcy Filed 9/6/18

Discussion in 'Pelfreybilt Off-Road' started by T4RFTMFW, Sep 8, 2018.

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  1. Sep 9, 2018 at 3:28 AM
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    Heard threw a IG grape vine that Tyler left someone stranded and broke down... Maybe that's what he was talking about?
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    Most likely .
     
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    Friends, let this be a cautionary tale in the value of forming an LLC to protect your valuable personal assets from business issues.
     
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    Seriously... still defending?
     
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    Sitting here taking all this in. And the only thing I can think about is... Wtf kind of name is Satin.
     
  6. Sep 9, 2018 at 4:34 AM
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    I literally watched you order a watermelon mojito and have the bartender make fun of you.
     
  7. Sep 9, 2018 at 4:41 AM
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    This was posted on August 23rd.
    Did anyone buy one? Looks like they were clearing house.
     
  8. Sep 9, 2018 at 4:44 AM
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    That was @mh.meier posting since he was employed by the pelfrey’s. That was before they let him go and he signed a NDA.
     
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  9. Sep 9, 2018 at 4:46 AM
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    Yeah I wasn't blaming him for posting it. I was just noting that it seemed like they (the Pelfreys) were trying to clear out inventory.
     
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    I wonder if his NDA was with the company or pelfrey...get made null and void due to this bankruptcy?
     
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    The company didn't claim bankruptcy, the Pelfrey's did. So I don't think it would matter either way.
     
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    Yeah but depending on the verbiage of the NDA, it can be non-binding if they end up reforming under a new company. Granted in order to get someone to sign an iron clad NDA there is usually a nice severance attached to it.
     
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    Just you wait. I’m gonna get proof on Thursday.
     
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    Quite possibly, I doubt anyone except the pelfrey’s knew the gravity of the situation they were in.
     
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    Anyone report this shit to the media yet? Im all for more coverage.
     
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    Thats what I was thinking also. The other thing to keep in mind is that even if you successfully got a refund you can still make a complaint with the FTC and California AG. The more complaints the higher the odds that a real investigation will be conducted. Then people will have the answers they deserve.
     
  17. Sep 9, 2018 at 5:10 AM
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    For anyone with outstanding orders, you need to contact the Attorney General of California immediately to start the process of filing against their bankruptcy.
     
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    Repost from the T4R page (

    BLUF - dispute those charges for those just joining.



    Visa/MasterCard rules for getting your money back
    I thought I should chime in here and forgive me for the newb status on post counts, and again for not reading the whole thread... I don't know if this has been stated already regarding the customers that paid via credit/debit card and have not received their products...

    I am in the Merchant Account business, I am a high level risk management expert in relation to Visa/MasterCard/Amex/Discover member bank rules and regulations...

    Pelfreybilt had a merchant account, and I am sure their bank has shut it down by now, even though this surely already has happened or will happen, the bank that underwrote the merchant account is responsible for all the transactions, regardless of whether or not Pelfrey declares official bankruptcy.

    Part of the guarantee that consumers get from the card brands (V, MC, D & Amex) and the member banks issuing cards to their customers, i.e. your credit or debit card, is that you can "chargeback" or "dispute" the transaction if you have not received your order, and the rules change when there is an advance payment for product orders, so if your own bank says you can't dispute because of the age of the transaction, you need to say to them that it was advance payment for a product and typically you then have up to 365 days, and in some cases, 545 days from the original transaction.

    Just know that not every bank support for disputing transactions is versed in the fine print and different types of disputes, so know that you paid for a product to be made, and then delivered at an advance date, and now the merchant (Pelfrey) is put of business and refusing to deliver/refund, this also is relevant for merchandise that was flawed...
     
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    Their application for trademark expired, they never actually followed through on the original.
     
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    Does this same rule apply to Electronic Transfers? I know they attempted to to have customers pay by that route to avoid paypal fees or merchant fees.
     
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