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1st Gen Tacoma 12" OSR Outboard Shock Relocation - Outside Frame Rails

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by ARCHIVE, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. Oct 22, 2018 at 2:21 PM
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    I appreciate the input. My designs push boundaries and that's what buyers like along with solid quality.
    Plus sometimes you have to show people what they're missing and be patient til a group accepts it.
     
  2. Oct 22, 2018 at 3:11 PM
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    Glad you're looking into options for us 1st gen guys.
     
  3. Oct 22, 2018 at 5:29 PM
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    I think there is still a good market for he first gen trucks. They’re basic, many of them like mine don’t have ABS or even CC. They make excellent, tough wheeling platforms since there’s less fancy stuff to break or bypass.

    They’re starting to get cheap enough that people are willing to really wheel them hard.

    The only thing I’d sell or trade mine for is a 95/96 Bronco w/5.9
     
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  4. Oct 23, 2018 at 11:07 AM
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    Just reached out to King for the conversion parts to swap from piggyback to remote res.
     
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  5. Oct 23, 2018 at 11:36 AM
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    oh shoot. forgot to mention 2.0. Them 2.5's are super fat
    Yeah i'll have 12" fox and i had Alcan build my leafs. They have a bit of travel. Will get cycle measurements in time.

    Edit: would piggys work with the fox 2.0's or would they need to be Remote?
     
  6. Oct 23, 2018 at 11:51 AM
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    piggybacks look super cool, but they're hard to package. I recommend doing remote. You can always clamp the res to the shock body after the fact if there's room for it.
     
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  7. Oct 23, 2018 at 12:11 PM
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    Are you’re rear fenders cut? I have a feeling the answer to your question is that you have a shackle flip, therefore you loose bump travel which prevents the tire from rubbing your 2.0 body?
     
  8. Oct 23, 2018 at 12:18 PM
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    That’s not what I meant. Did you have to cut the rear wheel well to fit 35”s?
     
  9. Oct 23, 2018 at 1:00 PM
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    Piggy backs are not possible with the direction I'm going, plus piggy back would make more it more difficult to put a hydro bumps on the frame
     
  10. Oct 23, 2018 at 1:07 PM
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    Looks like you have negative offset wheels, you have a Bilstein smaller diameter shock without a reservoir, which allows the bolt to be parallel to the bed, which all help you get away without a spacer.

    I like the way shocks look with top bolt pointing towards the bed, and 2.5 shocks, and remote reservoir.
     
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  11. Oct 23, 2018 at 3:53 PM
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    You also have a second gen that was designed to run an outboard shock. The ford tower actually puts your shock closer to the frame. Factory wheels are like 4.75" BS, so you gained clearance at the shock, and more than an inch at the wheel. All on a truck designed to be set up that way.

    First gen shocks are inside the frame, and were not designed to have a shock outboard.

    Below are pictures of my buddies 2000 TJ we're building, and my other buddies 93 ZJ in the same driveway. We like to do things we probably shouldn't be.

    Kevin.jpg
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    What!? :eek:

    A shackle flip, Chevy 63s, AND 14” ADS! :goingcrazy::bowdown:

    It’s like we are in a thread from 2013. What are you cycling?
     
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    AKA. way less up travel than what you had haha
     
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    Thank you.
     
  15. Oct 24, 2018 at 7:57 AM
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    So you plan on going 2.0x12?
     
  16. Oct 24, 2018 at 8:20 AM
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    You’re again solely interested in down travel. I’m more interested in the big picture. Up travel is just as important as down travel is for a variety of reasons. If you have a 14” shock, running a shackle flip, and dont have to cut your wheel well to stuff a 35” then that tells me you may have gained some droop but you lost up travel.

    I’m no suspension geometry expert, but that’s what I’m analyzing.
     
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    Shocks outboard the frame offers greater stability.

    A 2.5'' shock will take abuse better than a 2.0 due to higher oil capacity.

    This is more targeted for the people who like to go fast over rough terrain. Not necessarily crawling. Though it won't hurt you that much in those situations anyways.

    Exactly. Build for a different reason. This kid is not going to do what yours does as people who go fast need a better balance. You just care about down travel.

    Also dropping a 35'' below the slider isn't that hard. I can do that with 10'' shocks in the stock location..


    May I ask as to why 2nd gen owners are duking it out about their rear suspension setups in a 1st gen forum/thread?
     
  18. Oct 24, 2018 at 8:52 AM
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    I think it is for performance and handling and potential to have greater non-articulated travel. Maybe it will be more the speed junkies who appreciate it
    You can articulate like crazy with shocks inboard but how does it do when the speed picks up and how much bump travel does it give?
     
  19. Oct 24, 2018 at 9:11 AM
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    So I'm looking a few more 1st gen owners to step up and put work in to mount the Archive relocation and show others how it works.
    They are not free, as it requires work and posting results for 1st gen community to see, but I'm giving kits at no charge to 5 total, 2 spots filled.

    Preference will be given to people with build threads, Instagram presence and serious builds. Start a conversation with me why you should get a kit.

    Thanks,
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