1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Good fire extinguishers that fit under backseat?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Lightsped, Nov 26, 2018.

  1. Dec 15, 2018 at 10:57 AM
    #61
    TWTaco

    TWTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2015
    Member:
    #172601
    Messages:
    5,967
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Did you have a fire and use the Element ? Did the car burn up because your Element didnt work? Just Curious as to your opinion on this, are you a fire fighter? I did purchase the E50 but if your saying it wont put out a fire then i will have to go with a standard extinguisher?
     
  2. Dec 15, 2018 at 11:04 AM
    #62
    Itchyfeet

    Itchyfeet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2016
    Member:
    #183054
    Messages:
    9,116
    Work in fire protection and hold numerous certifications related to fire equipment. It's a junk product pitched to people that don't know any better. If it was a good product it would have a UL rating.
     
    Sand Dog likes this.
  3. Dec 15, 2018 at 11:10 AM
    #63
    TWTaco

    TWTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2015
    Member:
    #172601
    Messages:
    5,967
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Good to know. It fooled me with the Leno Video!
     
  4. Dec 15, 2018 at 11:14 AM
    #64
    TWTaco

    TWTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2015
    Member:
    #172601
    Messages:
    5,967
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Okayed so i just trashed the E50! What do you suggest to use on a bed rack mounting application?[​IMG]
     
  5. Dec 15, 2018 at 11:24 AM
    #65
    Itchyfeet

    Itchyfeet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2016
    Member:
    #183054
    Messages:
    9,116
    5# ABC is as low i'd go. Sure it's not small like a 2.5#, but it gives you a hose and an extra 2.5# of chemical to get into those hard to reach spaces.

    Look for something with metal handles and a metal mounting bracket. This pretty much eliminates all Kidde products found at big box retailers

    This is pretty much the industry standard as baseline protection in class 8 tractor trucks https://www.amazon.com/Amerex-Chemi...01708&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=amerex+b402&psc=1

    Clean agents really have no business in a vehicle unless it's an airplane. If my truck catches on fire i'm not going to want it back anyways.
     
  6. Dec 15, 2018 at 7:09 PM
    #66
    Tacorific

    Tacorific Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2018
    Member:
    #272222
    Messages:
    569
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    John
    NE Iowa
    Vehicle:
    Barcelona Red 2018 SR5 I4 4X4
    Torque Pro, LED Map & Dome lights, Westin Hitch, Ride Rite Air bags with Daystar perches, Utility Package Rear Cab Panel
    So NO, you have never tried it. You have no experience with the product. You are ASSUMING it doesn't work, and trying to convince others to follow you and your ignorance. This product has been used in Europe for several years, quite successfully, I might add.
     
  7. Dec 15, 2018 at 7:17 PM
    #67
    Tacorific

    Tacorific Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2018
    Member:
    #272222
    Messages:
    569
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    John
    NE Iowa
    Vehicle:
    Barcelona Red 2018 SR5 I4 4X4
    Torque Pro, LED Map & Dome lights, Westin Hitch, Ride Rite Air bags with Daystar perches, Utility Package Rear Cab Panel
    More about the Element Fire Extinguishers:

    Originating in Italy, Element has been certified for sale in Europe by CE and TUV. Institutionally it has been tested and certified for use by multiple international military and police groups who have adopted it for active use.

    In North America, Underwriters Laboratories (UL) is responsible for the certification of fire extinguishers. UL does their testing to a standard that contains a form (physical shape) component followed by a performance component. Because Element's form does not fit inside of UL's guidelines of what a traditional fire extinguisher looks like (i.e. compressed gas cylinder with a hose and measurement gauge) it is immediately passed over for performance testing. At present UL is being campaigned to update its standards to recognize the different form offered by Element and allow it an opportunity to be tested and certified.

    Until the standards are updated Element cannot be used to substitute extinguishers in regulated environments that require a UL (or UL endorsed) certification. Element can however be freely used as an supplement to the extinguishers used where regulation exists.

    There are no restrictions in non-regulated environments (car, home, personal garage, etc.) allowing Element to be used freely.
     
    whatstcp likes this.
  8. Dec 15, 2018 at 7:19 PM
    #68
    Itchyfeet

    Itchyfeet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2016
    Member:
    #183054
    Messages:
    9,116
    I don't care what they're "doing" in Europe. It doesn't have a UL listing or meet ANSI standards. Element even acknowledges that it can't be used in environments that are regulated. So knock yourself out with a wall hanger. It's nothing more than snake oil fire extinguisher.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top