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2018 Best-Ever Tacoma Sales!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by TT005, Jan 3, 2019.

  1. Jan 3, 2019 at 1:10 PM
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    DRansom

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  2. Jan 3, 2019 at 2:15 PM
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    Sorry to burst your bubble with more logic... But if you win an event in the Special Olympics (your specific segment) it might not mean much to the overall record (Olympics/total car list).

    The link I posted was not the link you posted, that's not how the internet works. It starts somewhere, then goes to another page (different link) about another topic (segments).

    Going back to how you twist my logic to meet your logic (lol), if the best selling cars were the best cars because of supply/demand, then F150 would be the top of all the lists.

    You've explained Supply and Demand which is good.
    There's an increase in supply because more tacomas are being built (whole point of this thread).
    If you reread my post, my point was that when there's this huge increase in supply, prices will go down because demand won't keep up.

    There's going to be a whole lot of Tacomas out there with the New Tacomas having a whole host of new features that will make buying them more attractive than buying a used Tacoma.
    Toyota is going to innovate where they make money. Look at the changes between Gen2 and Gen3 tacomas.
    Now look at the changes between the latest Gen Rav4...
    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g25558401/best-selling-cars-suv-trucks-2018/

    Rav4 sells about twice as many units as the Tacoma. And do we see the Rav4 on the top resale list? No, because the model changes make buying a new one more appealing. Because Toyota spends $$$ on R&D, because it's a huge volume seller and they make bank. They don't make bank selling a used car, only new.
    If they made bank selling parts, it's in their interest to make them fail more often, further hurting resale prices. Mr Rock, meet Hard Place.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2019 at 3:16 PM
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    Toyota is selling a lot of Tacomas...so maybe

    Toyota is recouping their 3rd gen Tacoma design/ engineering costs faster.

    Toyota has more capital to invest in future technology, cover recalls (like Takata), and make future improvements to the Tacoma.


    Tacoma owners will have more access to aftermarket parts now and repair vehicle parts in the future.

    Tacomaworld may have more potential members.

    It's good for Toyota and good for Tacoma owners, imo- the staff of TW....maybe not so much.
     
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  4. Jan 3, 2019 at 3:43 PM
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    oconnor

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  5. Jan 3, 2019 at 4:19 PM
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    And the "StratoFlyer" too?

    Two birds, eh?
     
  6. Jan 3, 2019 at 4:27 PM
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  7. Jan 3, 2019 at 5:34 PM
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    I am a long time Tacoma owner and have owned 3 (both gen 2 and 3). For reasons I won't get into I have probably done a lot more studying of this market than most. Toyota sold more Tacos for a combination of reasons. Part of it is the fact that small trucks are becoming more popular because SUVs are morphing into crossovers, but the fact is that Toyota could have sold more in the past but purposefully constrained production for the US market for a variety of reasons such as CAFE standards. Both high prices and high resale values are not just a function of it being a good vehicle, but primarily of the fact that they don't build enough new cars to meet demand (again, by design). Fun fact: In spite of the fact that Toyotas margins on Tacomas are much higher than margins on Hiluxes, they choose to build more than twice as many Hiluxes as Tacomas.

    So certainly part of the increase in sales is due to the growing popularity of the mid size truck market in the US, but part is also due to their conscious decision to build more, possibly because increasing gas mileage on their other models allows them to. What this means for resale value is complicated. That will be determined by how hot the segment stays and what Toyota decides to build. Best case is that the segment stays hot and Toyota doesn't grow production too much. Worst case is sales are strong for a few years then the segment cools for some reason and we end up with lots of used Tacos chasing a decreasing market. In general, more new cars that will become used cars is not good for resale, but that isn't necessarily true if the market continues to grow.

    Regarding the better sales giving Toyota an incentive to invest more, if people are buying all you can build and your competition isn't executing well than why? Having owned a gen 2 and 2 gen 3s, I can't really say that a lot of innovation went into the gen 3 and in some ways it went backwards, and they STILL dominate and IMO have the best truck for me. My personal belief is that we would not have gotten a gen 3 at all if not for the Colorado, and in the end the Colorado taught them that they can count on their competition falling short. The only thing I can see upping the level of innovation in the Tacoma is if somehow the Ranger or something else started causing sales to tank... and I can't see that happening with the engine choices Ford has made (sorry, I would absolutely love to buy an American truck but I have a hatred for the use of turbochargers on small displacement engines to impersonate performance).
     
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  8. Jan 3, 2019 at 5:47 PM
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    Actually you are half right.
    The real reason that Tacoma and Jeep and 4Runner have a higher residual value is not only a well managed supply and demand but also a well managed update schedule. Longer times between updates mean the used ones are vehicles people are willing to pay more for because they are basically the same as the new trucks.
     

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