Who makes aluminum sliders?

After watching that, I think I’ve lost interest in aluminum sliders lol...

 

Well, if you want to prove your point, it should be that simple. Same everything except metal used. Your point is it's worth it to use 4130. All I'm asking is why? You said metal matters. I'm asking why. Same design, same everything, convince me to pay more for one metal over the other.

If I'm getting a 1% increase in strength at a 300% increase in cost, that's a stupid investment. What are the real world numbers?

I'm not doubting you, I just want more than "because I said so" to make me part with my hard earned money.

 

Same reason Trophy Truck chassis are built from 4130. What tube would you rather have above your head when land on your lid @90mph. In my experience it takes about 20% more force on the tube bender to bend 4130, then you have to bend it father because 4130 springs back towards it's original shape more than DOM. If you took a piece of 1.75" .120 DOM bent it to 45 degrees and did the same with 4130, the 4130 tube would have less bend in it because it springs back more. Same reason it is less likely to dent and why it will handle more abuse before failure.

 

whatever you do, don't build overkill stuff for offroading... is this your recommendation?

it's overkill. and expensive. and it's an expensive way to save weight. and where again is the problem? seriously, someone's finding a problem with over built expensive aftermarket parts on a truck enthusiast forum? go figure.

 

As you should, sliders aren't heavy anyway

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S1yikfwrg6I

 

my steel sliders after a trip lol, couldnt imagine alumn.....ive used my kickouts plenty of times as pivot points

 

I can only imagine what my 2.5ton land cruiser would do to alum sliders. That's unloaded too, with gear it's a bit more haha. Be worth a laugh if I didn't think they'd just cause more damage than just hitting the rocks.

 

Man... are we really arguing about what type of steel has a minuscule advantage over another still?

Guys... let's move on, THEY'RE SLIDERS. They will take a beating no matter what the fuck you make them out of. Just find yourself something you're happy with and move the fuck on...

I can appreciate a debate about the technicalities of things like this but for fucks sake lol

 

Also the cost of slider is a lot more than just the material. That's just a small percentage. The real cost is the labor involved in cutting, bending, coping, assembly, welding, coating, handling, ect. Just because the the material is 20-30% more expensive does not translate into the slider being 20-30% more expensive. It's also in the design of the slider, usually better looking designs are harder to make, same goes for making them stronger.

 

If you want aluminum sliders...you probably don’t really need sliders...

 

Not taking this convo serious until someone mentions a short member column.




C'mon, gotta be some engineers in the crowd that got a good chuckle of that one. Haha

 

Words of wisdom.

 

I would prefer that the material of my slider takes some of the impact, when the metal deforms that is energy that isn't being transmitted through to my truck. It's the same as a bumper, it's there to give before something more important does. Sliders and skids should be thought of as disposable items, once they protect you from that big unplanned hit you get a new set.

 

Sliders are not crash armor, they're there to keep your rockers from taking damage and hanging you up as you make your way over or alongside obstacles that exceed your width or break over. There will be some flex but none of that should make you have to throw them away. However if you're disillusioned and using them as tbone protection from little old ladies, they will not help much haha. I rolled my truck over and bonced off both my sliders at 35mph with a fully loaded truck (well some of it unloaded as I rolled but you get the idea) and only had one minor ding in the slider. Your frame is still rice paper compared to anything you bolt on and will deform. When I cut those sliders off to put them on another truck (they were still that good) they were tension loaded because the frame behind them bent. They won't do their job as sliders if you make them too soft

 

2nd most valuable thing stated so far. Getting better !


Yeah that cut must have been scary. Btw sounds like you made out safe? Good to hear!

 

I've got no dogs in this fight, but I've got to ask. Did you make a profile just to argue a point with @jowybyo? All of your posts made are in this thread and started after they made a statement on another manufacturer's design.

 

Well, that might explain his deflection when I asked about real world cost/benefit analysis.

 

Yeah I wasn't expecting them to come off with so much force but I had friends holding so I didn't bind the sawzall blade so that helped. I made it out without a single scratch thankfully. Continued wheeling the truck all beat up for two more days and then drove it 600mi home haha.