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Rear shock advice

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Dr. Emmett Brown, Feb 20, 2019.

  1. Feb 20, 2019 at 8:24 AM
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    Dr. Emmett Brown

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    I recently installed my 3" lift and everything rides great, feels good and sounds good.
    I have Dakar HDs in the rear with the normal length 5100s and know I want to upgrade to a longer shock with some extended brake lines and bump stops, but can't make a decision on which shocks.
    I thought I was all set to just order some 5160s and run those for a couple years until I upgrade the fronts and rear to performance shocks, but was wondering what the downside to upgrading only the rears now to Fox 2.0 with resis and compression adjusters would be?

    My plan was/is to go with shocks all around so would grabbing my preferred rears now with the right amount of travel for my rear lift be dumb?

    I've done some reading and it seems like 5100s are a different "type" of valved shock than Fox's so I'm wondering if that would be an issue?

    I was thinking it made sense to do the rears now also, because I do carry a few hundred pounds daily in the bed, but have no weight up front.

    Any thoughts, info, facts, opinions are appreciated.
     
  2. Feb 20, 2019 at 8:30 AM
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    No downside at all with the fox they will ride so much better than the 5100s. I would make sure those are shocks you want to run for long term since they are pricey.
    I went from ome to king rear shocks with the HDs an it was nite an day difference. The fox is a top notch shock an will perform as such.
     
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    Very nice. I've been back and forth with Kings. Haha but for now I'm staying away from 2.5 shocks for any brand because that's $500 I could use for something else.
    Did you just swap out the rears at first or you did both front and rear at the same time? I'm mostly concerned with what it will feel like to be running 5100s with 888 coils up front and performance shocks in the rear.
     
  4. Feb 20, 2019 at 8:32 AM
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    I would say, sooner the better on rear shocks. With the 3" lift in back now, the 5100's are limiting the function/performance of lift in the back.
     
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  5. Feb 20, 2019 at 8:35 AM
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    I swapped the rears at first had ome 886 up front an rode really good. I waited a month to get the fronts done had other parts were getting replaced.
    That’s a smart idea keeping the extra money.
     
  6. Feb 20, 2019 at 8:58 AM
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    How did it ride with the two different type shocks?
     
  7. Feb 20, 2019 at 8:59 AM
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    Agreed. Even when I off-road, it's not rock crawling so my articulation isn't crazy and I'm not requiring wheels to be on the ground at all times. I can usually go to the places I want without 4wd too.
     
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  8. Feb 20, 2019 at 9:03 AM
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    The front was always a little stiff an the rear with ome was just outright harsh.
    With the kings out back an ome up front made for a very pleasant ride felt very balanced.
     
  9. Feb 20, 2019 at 9:04 AM
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    Why not just run the 5100 extended rears, with some bump stops and longer lines. They run almost 4 inches longer than the stock rears.

    I run the toytec boss non resi rears because they came in my kit. But are probably only 2 inches longer than stock. Whatever you do Do not waste money on OME rears! They’re just too short at just under 24 inches extended.

    On my previous Tacoma I ran sky jacker H7045 rear shocks. Great budget shock that paired very well with the Dakar’s and are just under 25 inches extended
     
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    I've looked at the B110s but I was thinking if I'm going to spend any money on different shocks I might as go ahead and get the ones I eventually plan on getting later anyway, right?
     
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    That's good to hear. Did/do you have compression adjusters on the Kings? If so, what was your experience running only rears with adjusters?
     
  12. Feb 20, 2019 at 1:59 PM
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    Yes I do, it’s been such a luxury being able to dial the shocks in if I’m loaded up or empty. For normal DD use I tried the softest an didn’t feel right, half way a little to firm, an like goldy locks between softest an middle setting is just right.
    Recently had a bed full of gravel an set 3/4 firm an it was great. The HD dakars hardly sag an rear didn’t bounce around. With ome shocks it was bucking like crazy with a similar load.
     
  13. Feb 20, 2019 at 2:05 PM
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    Despite popular belief FOX is not a top notch shock unless you spend big buck$ for their race stuff. The 2.0’s are just about equal if not a step above the Bilstein 5160’s.

    ADS and King will have the longest travel for extended travel. I think King is 9.5” of stroke and ADS is 9.8”

    I run the ADS rear 2.5’s and they are awesome with compression adjustment clickers
     
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    I have the Fox 2.5 remote reservoir with compression.
    They're good but they're still too short for the level of droop the dakars give.

    They might ride good but I wouldn't actually recommend them since they're too short.

    Although in my search no company makes a remote reservoir that I'm aware of that's long enough for Dakar.
    If you want something with that performance and length you need to do a shock relocation.

    Otherwise there is a shock from bilstein that's long enough . But it's just a traditional nitrogen shock . No performance to it compared to a 5100 or even stock.
     
  15. Feb 20, 2019 at 3:02 PM
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    I have the Fox extended 2.5 with RXT springs and there 25" extended.
    These are the tundra shocks set up and tuned for the tacoma.
    Should work well with your setup.
     
  16. Feb 20, 2019 at 3:15 PM
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    do you have the model number? I think those are the ones I have and they are not long enough for a dakar leaf pack.
    I already broke one by over extending it since the rear drooped more than the shock would allow and the stud ended up getting torn out.
     
  17. Feb 20, 2019 at 3:20 PM
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    ADS still have leftover travel with full Dakar droop. The stroke cycle is around 9.8", but the shock is approx 26" fully extended

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    i need to compare that to the fox.
    If I remember right the 28" is the same on fox.

    If that is the case its not enough. I've had my rear fully drooped with hte shock unbolted and its longer.
    Hey but for what its worth my friend has those Bilstein ones that are long enough for dakars and even with the usual brake extensions they aren't long enough and his brake lines were being pulled tight lol.
     
  20. Feb 20, 2019 at 4:17 PM
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    I had the shock unbolted with the Dakars at full droop and the shock was longer by about 1.25". I had to use a jack under the shock to push it up into place
    I should also mention that they are 6-leaf (medium) Dakars of the older gen
     
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