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Rhino "recovery" strap vs ARB

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by phdog, Jan 14, 2019.

  1. Feb 6, 2019 at 1:01 PM
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    JCOOR

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    Better call Rhino and tell them that
     
  2. Feb 6, 2019 at 1:16 PM
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    Late to the party - bear in mind that some experience needs to be involved here when doing vehicle recoveries.

    Snatch straps, in my view, should be used as a last resort, as they are the most dangerous. Start by digging out, then recovery boards, then a tow strap, then a winch/snatch strap as last options.

    As it's been pointed out, snatch straps are designed to store kinetic energy. However, the likelihood of them breaking during a recovery (even with respect to ARB and other good brands) is much higher than a tow strap. Should this happen, the force of the strap breaking is enough to seriously injure or even kill someone, especially if the break occurs with a shackle involved. Therefore, if you're considering a snatch strap or have one, purchase at least one recover damper to be placed over the strap. In the event of a break, these will help to absorb some of the energy and should help prevent the strap from seriously injuring someone.

    As far as the amount of weight rating, the higher the better. While the weight of a vehicle being recovered is the first thing to consider, static energy will always trump kinetic energy. The force of just one tire that's severely stuck adds weight resistance to the tune of 1/4 to 1/2 of the vehicle's weight.

    Bottom line, there is a lot more involved in vehicle recoveries than just the method used, whether folks want to admit it or not. Research the different options available and go from there. IMO, a shovel and recovery boards/traction boards will assist in most situations. A good shackle and tow strap should be considered next. Again, just the view of a dude on the internet. Cheers!

    PS: Link as reference to recovery dampers: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010DYFPW/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_9?smid=A2MOBBHRX7CB6B&psc=1
     
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  3. Feb 6, 2019 at 1:28 PM
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    This is incorrect. ARB makes numerous weight snatch straps, but the 17.5k one is ideal for our trucks even though it’s the lowest they offer. The higher it’s rated for, the less it’ll stretch during a recovery with our relatively small trucks. That just leads to greater chance of breaking things.
     
  4. Feb 8, 2019 at 6:35 PM
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    If anyone is still on the fence for a snatch strap the ARB weekender kit is pretty good deal if you are just getting started. A 30' snatch strap, 2 rated shackles, pair of gloves and the bag it stores in can be used as a damper. I found mine for a little over $100 if I remember right. I might pick up a rhino strap also to cover that base.
     
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  5. Feb 28, 2019 at 12:31 PM
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  6. Feb 28, 2019 at 3:45 PM
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    I'd really only do that for a dead straight pull, but that's not always the case off road. So the advantage would be ease of use and less chafing like you said.

    edit: Plus the shackle receiver (with no shackle) will be the first thing to hit off road, which is a good thing. It's saved my hitch and bumper before. Very shitty video but you get the idea. Just drug the shackle receiver.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R9Yc544ta0
     
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  7. Feb 28, 2019 at 3:51 PM
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    So would the shackle hitch receiver above is a good one to buy? The shackle is only a 5/8 one so don't know if rating is high enough? Thanks.
     
  8. Feb 28, 2019 at 3:52 PM
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    I can't speak to that one, but this is the one I carry. Even now with my aftermarket bumpers, I still carry it in my recovery gear. In fact, used it the other week to pull a stock truck out of the mud.

    https://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-2...ybilt+shackle&qid=1551397915&s=gateway&sr=8-4
     
  9. Feb 28, 2019 at 3:54 PM
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    Ok that's what I'll get.. :thumbsup:
     
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  10. Feb 28, 2019 at 3:55 PM
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    Once you receive it, you'll be impressed. It's one solid hunk of steel and pretty heavy. Doubles great as a weapon.
     
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    I have their 30' tow strap. Works great. It's a tow strap and not for hard pulls, low and slow for this.

    Definitely want a snatch strap for hard pulls out of sticky situations. :burnrubber:
     
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  12. Feb 28, 2019 at 4:57 PM
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    The ARB is significantly better. Actually has stretch and a decent amount of it.

    That said if you don't plan to use it a lot, you can get cheaper snatch straps from rugged ridge or smittybilt.

    The ARB would be better yes but possibly not worth the cost if you won't use it much.

    I have both ARB and a Canadian brands version of the Bubba rope kinetic rope.
    Now that has the most stretch, best to have but they're also upwards of $200
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but won't the stretch be solely based off of momentum? If that's the case, momentum = mass X velocity. Since our mass is fixed (for the most part), we can increase velocity. Or if it's based off of force then it's mass X acceleration. Either way... Speed up and the stretch will be there.

    Not that I'm saying to snatch someone out going 50 mph or that you're incorrect about the rating of strap for our trucks. I'm just saying that a heavier rated strap can stretch as much as a lower rated strap.
     
  14. Feb 28, 2019 at 5:28 PM
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    I legitimately don’t know the answer to that. I just know that I’ve used the ARB 17.5k a LOT while off road and it works extremely well.
     
  15. Feb 28, 2019 at 5:31 PM
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    I agree, they do work well. I use a hilift brand tow strap to aid in recovery with my hilift since I don't have a winch and I need to be able to self recover. I have been pulled with the arb strap though and can say that it felt soft and controlled which meant less jerking on the truck.
     
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    I believe they are made with a different weave and material to handle more weight and because of that our trucks can't generate the momentum needed to get the stretch.

    Could be wrong though
     
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    Don't forget they aren't good forever and they should technically be given time to relax.

    Repetitive use can damage them.
    From what I remember reading in 4wd mag having two to rotate is better
     
  18. Feb 28, 2019 at 6:49 PM
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    I don’t know if I’d call it damage, but just normal wear. They’re definitely a disposable item and should be replaced every so often to prevent failure. I’ve had mine for almost two years now and used it for probably 50-60 pulls, so it wouldn’t be a bad idea to replace it sometime this year. Cheap insurance when it comes to safety.
     
  19. Mar 19, 2019 at 5:24 PM
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    RHINO USA is NOT made in USA...just received my 30ft strap and tag clearly says MADE IN CHINA...also ordered the D-Shackles and Tire Gauge and ALL 3 boxes say Made in P.R.C. ..thats China to me also....Cant say it they are good or bad,but pissed and thinking of returning because of their play on the USA...and false advertising.Guess its a play on words that you need to understand....their site and boxes say Designed and Engineered in USA...yep..father and son sat at a table in CA. and did that,then sent to China to get made as cheap as possible....Not saying they are bad,but didnt expect to see that on the tag,just like cheap Harbor Freight stuff...They need to be honest,and if they lie now...good luck with the lifetime warranty....If you check the site,you cant email them....got to call a 1-800 #... going to do tomorrow...wonder if I'll get someone in China... :)
     
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    Just like the RHINO "USA"......Made in PRC..!! its on all their product boxes..and their strap has a tag MADE IN CHINA...false advertising..!!
     
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