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Snatch/kinetic vs tow rope/strap

Discussion in 'Recovery' started by mcclurej881, May 13, 2019.

  1. May 13, 2019 at 9:21 AM
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    I guess this is kind of a PSA, though I'm willing to bet this is something you guys already know.

    The family and I were in St Augustine this weekend at a drive-on beach. The sand was very thick and fluffy, especially just inside the entrance. Throughout the day I snatched out three vehicles without 4wd. An F150, a Tundra, and a Ford Edge.

    Other vehicles around us were getting stuck and pulled out, but I was a little shocked at how some of them were pulled out. The only snatch strap I saw out there was the one I was using. Everyone else was snatching with regular tow straps. This reminded me of another situation I found myself in: about a month ago I was driving in a Wildlife Management Area here in NE FL when I came across a rwd Tahoe stuck in a mud hole. At the time I only had a non kinetic recovery strap and the owner of the Tahoe and the ranger that showed up were trying to get me to snatch him out, which I refused. Eventually I pulled him out (with my recovery strap) after some digging.

    Educate yourself before you do any wheeling. Poor recoveries can lead to broken gear, trucks, or worse, bodies. Ronny has quite a few video s about proper recovery techniques:

    https://youtu.be/KcUDgmSMhWk

    Also while we were out there I saw many trucks lowered in the rear like the one in the photo. Is this a regional thing, or is it happening everywhere, and why?

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  2. May 13, 2019 at 9:26 AM
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    In regards to the bro lean truck... yuk.

    And yes I’ve seen many people pull with tow straps and not use snatch. But most of the time, it’s because it was all they had. Although I do agree, for stuck situations, snatch is best

    Edit: probably the best damn recovery video ever
     
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  3. May 13, 2019 at 9:35 AM
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    Yeah I've come up with a few names for the bro truck lean. "Sitting pretty", "supine". It's pretty common down here. I wonder if it's just as common out west.

    To be clear I don't think there's anything wrong with pulling someone out with a tow strap, but snatching someone, at speed with no give to the rope blows my mind, and I saw a lot of it this past weekend.
     
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  4. May 13, 2019 at 9:38 AM
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    Someone called the rear down thing the "Cali crawl". So there's that.



    As far as the rest goes, yeah. People underestimate and are ignorant of the forces they're dealing with. Good psa.
     
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  5. Aug 8, 2019 at 10:18 AM
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    As someone who lives in CA, I find that offensive. I've actually never seen that here. But then again, I live north of Bakersfield, lol.

    As for the tow strap thing, tow straps definitely have their place. The danger is when someone uses a tow strap like a snatch strap. If you care to read the instructions that come with them, they say not to use a dynamic load. Maybe the generic Amazon/ebay specials don't have instructions, tho...
     
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    Is Bakersfield really even in California? It seems more like a lost piece of west Texas

    :crapstorm:
     
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    Everything south of Bakersfield could just drop off into the Pacific for all I care, lol...

    Except San Diego, that place is pretty cool.
     
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    I used to laugh at the kinetic ropes and think they were a waste of money. After buying one, I'll never use anything else if I can avoid it!
     
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    Recommendation on a good snatch strap?
     
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    I've never seen it here either, and I live in LA lol. Actually that's a lie, I've seen a couple. But from what I understand, the 'bro squat' originated over on the east coast in N. Carolina...thought it was originally called the "Carolina Squat"

    But yes we can all agree it looks completely and utterly stupid
     
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    Much easier on both trucks (recovery truck and one being recovered) when the strap has some elasticity to it, especially if you're having to tug someone up and over something or out of sand/mud
     
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    In comparison to other kinetic straps, this is on the cheap end of the spectrum. WELL worth it, trust me. Just make sure you have proper recovery points front and rear to accompany it.

    This for the rear

    https://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-2...6916&sprefix=hitch+shackle+smi,aps,142&sr=8-4

    And for the front, I recommend a TRD offroad recovery hook.
     
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  15. Oct 18, 2019 at 3:22 PM
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    How’s abt this one?
    Oak Leaf Shackle Hitch Receiver,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C6PLN57?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
     
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    I love Ronny Dahl!!! Good shit!

    Ed: also think its funny ive never seen americans use weighted dampeners when winching or snatching.
     
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    I'm sure they're all about the same. I just linked the smitty one because that's the one I own and I know it can take a beating. I used to leave it in the hitch without the shackle and it worked well as a smooth surface to drag over rocks vs the hitch.
     
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    If one were to become a projectile for whatever reason, it’ll do less damage than a steel shackle.
     
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