I hope no one plans to use birdshot for a defense load

police recovered two weapons: a shotgun and a .22 rifle with a "telescopic" sight. so it was either birdshot or the "wimpy" .22 that killed a dozen people. personally, i wouldn't want to be shot by either. i keep Olin MilSpec 00 and slugsters in my defense shotgun...i would prolly go for a pistol first though. (closer) speaking of which...anyone seen this before?:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/03/derrick-bird-licensed-gun-holder

 

My favorite home defense shotgun round is #4 Buck in 3" mag. It has 41 pellets.

 

00buck.. next to the bed.. and more goodies next to me and the wife..

 

I plan on using some dragons breath for home defense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EePcpmWDNiI


and well this one...this needs no explination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OonQDCkTcU

 

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That was clearly a grazing shot. If that guy got shot directly with bird shot, it would've torn his face off. Lucky bastard for sure.

 

there was a shooting here recently and the guy used a shotgun with buckshot. The first victim was shot in the hand about 3 feet away. destroyed her hand...but not bad enough for her to lose it, they were able to do skin grafting and save it.
One of my wife's friends was another victim. she was shot at probably 6-8 feet away. the shooter was clearly a terrible shot but he landed a pellet in her hip and another one went in around her elbow and traveled up into her tricep. the bullets are still there, other than metal trauma she is gonna be fine.


So if you are gonna use a shotgun make sure you actually do aim, don't just point and blast if you intend to get a kill shot

 

LEAD dust? seriously? this i have to check out. lead is toxic, especially in dust form. ("bullet" form aint too healthy either )

thanks for this thread. i have O/U shotguns scattered about the home. i thought i was smart loading them with duck loads. i will have to rethink my defensive plans. thx!

 

Breaching round

These frangible rounds are made of a dense sintered material, often metal powder in a binder such as wax, which can destroy a lock then immediately disperse

 

thanks! not lead. i think i have one of those things..i have a bean bag round or two.

my bro is SWAT. the said they are using explosives now to enter most buildings. it is an adhesive bag of water with det cord. the water diverts the blast into the door hinges..knock knock!

 

^^ haha thats badass! I was an ammo troop for the Air Force and got to watch stuff get blown up with Det. cord. That stuff is badass!

 

Hmm... 3 1/2" T shot should suffice for personal protection right?

 

i have shot birdshot at about 3 feet thru a 2x4 long ways (3.5") it made a perfect hole like a paddle bit on a drill so it is lethal for sure but practical as a means of self defense wouldnt bet my life on it unless as a last resort.

 

Duck loads will do you just fine. Especially the 3.5".

 

Buck and ball, Centurion makes it. You'll be cleaning Bad Guy off your walls and ceiling for weeks

 

Put some turkey loads in there. Won't be any problems with it. It will hurt your shoulder but leave them stone cold dead.

 

Dick was also shooting a .410...

 

12ga. 00 buck in a 3.5" magnum right beside my bed for me.