The LED SAE J583 Fog Pod & Fog Light Review

This isn’t necessarily true. With less intensity in the upward portion of the pattern, the glare back in adverse conditions isn’t intense enough to be hard on the driver’s eyes. Pencil beams or spot patterns are perfect for throwing light far down the trail or road. With the pattern we’ve created, we provide distance, while having upward spill light and a smooth blend of light

 

Our intention with this pattern is to create the brightest, smoothest and most useable pattern for someone to drive on. With utilizing the limited amount of upward light SAE regulations allow, the fog lights are now able blend far better with the low beams and high beams eliminating distracting cutoffs and dead spots within the vehicles lighting pattern.

 

While we do understand that some people would like to maintain a separation in patterns, our goal with creating lighting packages is to always have a smooth blend of light. Separation and harsh cutoffs can create dead spots, which limits your view of pedestrians or obstacles that may be out of view when driving under a light with too sharp of a cutoff.

 

Your bold font is annoying and distracting. Just saying...

 

Nah it’s all good! I’m beyond excited to get a shipping notification for these and can’t wait to install them and to try them out. Thanks for keeping open communication with the community!

 

The comment was regarding very short range wall shot with projector fogs. Currently his projector fogs and headlights had the same cut off point, as they were aimed incorrectly. With a very short range wall shot using projector fogs, the pattern should be clearly distinguishable. At longer ranges the patterns will intermix.

 

Oops i'm not fluent in lighting terms! thanks for the correction in pencil beam pattern. i guess what i mean was the thin horizontal beam that kinda looks like a pencil on its side =P haha.

IMO, the thin concentrated beam height that Rigid produces are what fogs need. Tried and true beam pattern for the past years in lighting tech (OEM and AFTERMARKET) and in my own personal experience. The projection of these shorter height beams cover the perpendicular ground just right for driver experience. Your BajaDesign fogs are taller and if properly aimed the bottom illumination will fall further below the bumper where the driver will not benefit from any of that light because of the tall light pattern.

Im still buying a pair of your BD SAE fogs so dont worry, you'll have my money soon. i have to try these out first hand before i talk even more shit. =)

 

BD got their feelings hurt

 

Saw this Jeep in the office parking lot today. This demonstrates the need for an SAE light with compliant cut offs. These were pointed so far down toward the ground to presumably mitigate the glare they would not be very effective in lighting the street ahead. The picture doesn’t do the best job at showing the extent of the angle. They were Rigid non-SAE pods.

 

Was installing the Rigid selective yellow SAE fogs this evening and my Rago mounts appear to be manufactured incorrectly. I’ve purchased them in the past without issue. The backing mount plates have been welded on up-side-down so the bottom mount hole is now at the top.

 

Yeah, that's gonna be a no from me dawg.

 

Has anyone had the Bajas out on the road? Just ordered a set of Apillar mounts for my D2 duallys for off road use.

 

I will soon. I’ll have both BD and Rigid fogs mounted, so I should have some excellent comparisons from actual street use.

 

Are you going to have a glare test with someone in the opposite direction as well?

 

Crashnburn needs a plaque for all this hard work testing. I read one of the posts saying the Bajas are marked for 2016 sae revision, I googled it just to do some reading about it and on Sam's page its 80 bucks to read it. I haven't looked it up on my computer yet.

 

I just ran the BD SAE fogs and adjusted them about an hour ago. They're brighter than my headlights, but softer than my headlights above my headlight cutoff. They're perfect as a headlight enhancement from what my short time with them can tell. My previous Sport-Rs, used as fogs, were like high beams with a flood pattern.

 

I am confused. Are these driving lights or fog lights?

You mention lighting up street signs, hazards, and other obstacles. Fog lights should never be lighting up street signs that are at a height of 6ft.

I don’t have any distracting cutoffs with properly aimed fog lights and headlights.

Your promo video shows a lot of glare coming off of them compared to the headlights on the same vehicle. How can you tell me that is not distracting to other drivers?

 

Wasn’t planning on it, but I could certainly take measurements above the cut off for relative comparison. Measured data is far more telling than subjective ‘opposite driver direction’ tests.

Need to up your SAE membership level for free access.

If you are running low performance 9003s they technically could be brighter in lumen output. If you are running H4s that is highly unlikely.

Yeah, wide-cornering squadrons should have never been promoted as a foglight. They are effectively super-bright high beams that were dangerous to oncoming traffic on the road.

Fog lights should definitely not be lighting up street signs.

 

No amount of explanation will make your pattern safe. How the street signs are illuminated is not ok. All this light will do is get law enforcement attention and hurt the progress trying to be made with sae led lights. It is no different than those who drive with hids in halogen reflectors, blinding. But I am honestly not surprised at all coming from a company that told everyone their squadron lights were "street friendly." Well those aren't either and we all know it. All to make a dollar, right?

 

They are within the legal limits. What's the point of legal limits if they are unsafe? Did you have input on the SAE regulations and get overruled?