South Carolina BS thread under new MANAGEMENT and lives in SC

Going to be another hot Sunday.

Wonder if the golf courses will be empty?

Wonder if I should hit up the beach?

Wonder if I should go fishing for hawgs later tonight?

 

Did the beach and boat today. Weather was awesome but sun burnt me to a crisp.

 

Boat from the trailer trade was a freshwater bass boat that I didn’t have the heart to let the salt destroy so I sold it to a guy in Canadys who fishes the Edisto for bass. The club thing was cool but ended up buying my own little bay boat that I keep at Bohicket Marina in the dry stack.

I’ve been learning Bohicket Creek and Wadmalaw River with all its little creeks around here. Been around the back of Botney already too. Really want to take a day trip to Beaufort via the ICW as well as a trip up the Cooper through the Pinopolis Lock and into Lake Moultrie.

So much more to do/see/explore here by boat vs HHI/Beaufort...

 

Random post:
When I was at Myrtle last week, I saw lots & lots of pirate references.
Problem is: the area was pretty much uninhabited in the “pirate era” -basically 1715-1725, depending on what dates you use, with most activity in 1715-1723 (only 8 years provides pretty much all the “pirate lore” we think of as “pirates”).
Anyways, one known pirate trading point & ship repair spot was “White Point” somewhere near modern Myrtle.

I identified where that was. It was a small channel linking the ocean front & the back channel/river that goes inland from Myrtle to the Little River inlet/town, then down past Cherry Grove.
The location allowed 3 ways of escape- to ocean directly, down river to modern Little River’s location, or deep upriver as a last resort, where they could flee a good ways then abandon ship & run & hide.
Now, that inlet is mostly silted up, being just a marsh with pockets showing how it was.
Barefoot Landing was built in the remains of White Point, with the old name still in use in that immediate area till fairly recent redevelopment.

So, the only real pirate location in the area is a tourist trap (which didn’t use to be) with no visible pirate theme.
I find that kinda funny.

In the aerial view, the old inlet is obvious:

It was deep enough for sloops & small craft to cross, but too shallow for Royal Navy warships. So, it was perfect for pirate needs.

Edit-
I used to do early 17th C nautical re-enacting (ie-pirates) & did extensive research into the period, getting to know several writers/historians. In fact, “Tartan Jack” was my pirate name, given to me by Ed/E. T. Fox, who is a British pirate historian- appearing in the BBC/Smithsonian “The Real Story” series episode on pirates.
I still have the kit, but lost contact with the folks I used to do it with when the sites all shut down.
I called Ed: The Extra-Terrestrial Red Rodent. He thought that was hillarious.

 

Edward Teach’s sister still haunts my family’s land in Grimesland, NC. He would stay at the plantation on occasion and we hid his sister so she could avoid capture and not be forced to give away his whereabouts.

 

By any chance, did your family remember her name in the family tale?
Or any details about her?
It’s part of a debate I had for years in regards to Teach.

 

Sally White if I remember correctly? May be a descendant to the Grady White Boat family in Greenville, NC. I have a friend in EI from that family. I really don’t know much about her, just the gates are locked at dark and no one is allowed out after dark still.
It is also in a NC Ghost Story book. My dad may have a copy of it somewhere still.
It is actually amazing how many families have ties to Teach, I guess all those after raid parties on Ocracoke made him a benevolent person to the locals.

 

There are several ideas as to Eddie & his actual roots.
Fox thinks he was from Bristol & Johnson’s book has it right, that he was named Teach, Thatch, or something similar.

Another friend is convinced he was “Edward “Black” Beard” & a North Carolina native, with Teach as a nickname as he was a former teacher.

Another that his name was Edward & was nicknamed “Blackbeard,” formerly a teacher, & possibly born a Drummond from Scottish roots, but raised in Bristol.

I’ve been gathering info, but can’t come down on some issues about Teach. I think Teach may have been a pseudonym (based on him seeming to have a higher education than most seamen of the era), but no idea what his name was originally. He also seems to have North Carolina ties, as he bypasses South Carolina & avoids New Providence to take his pardon in North Carolina, settling in Bath. How deep are those ties? Did he already intimately know the outer banks waters & islands? Was it from the years from Queen Anne’s War?
Did his sister move there first, then he followed? The sister stories are doubts as even true by many Teach historians.

It is fairly certain that he, like most of the Nassau/New Providence “Flying Gang” group/pirate-cluster were Jacobites, likely gathered former privateers & ex-Royal Navy men from “Queen Anne’s War”/“War of Spanish Succession” in 1715 to form a Caribbean Jacobite Navy. However, at the fail of the 1715 uprising, they were abandoned & disavowed by the politicians that gathered them (inc the governor of Jamaica).

 

Just did a little looking, I believe it is a lady in white that haunts the grounds which I was told was Teach’s sister.
There are other stories and supposed ghost there also. There were boards taken up in an upstairs bedroom because of a murder in the house. No matter how many times it was cleaned the stains came back.

 

https://www.geni.com/people/Edward-Teach/6000000006870592057

 

Went to catch some HAWG’s tonight. Instead we got catfish’d

 

I’d love to know the sources of that info.
That stuff is highly controversial on him in particular. So much legend & misinformation about Eddie in his own lifetime.
Which is also one reason I find it so fascinating too.

 

The man definitely made a name for himself.

Genie is something like ancestry.com stuff. They speculated on my next two generations back in Scotland.My relatives had to book passage from an Englishman to get here from Scotland. My relative Walter and his brother came over together. Grimesland, NC is from the brother while my family went from Portsmouth to Duplin County, NC, to Georgia, Alabama, and then to Texas.

 

https://www.greensboro.com/famous-p...cle_963cb057-b44f-5fdc-889e-ab3cc86a075d.html

 

Thav

I meant the family tree info itself- father, both mothers, & siblings. I wonder if it’s more family tales or if there is actual documentation to back it up.

Teach, Thatch, & several other variations are given in contemporary documents, with Teach being most common & most featured in Johnson’s pirate book, where most of our pirate stories come from.

 

Name are different and spellings. For instance me being from the Graham Clan of Scotland. I am a Grimes, but there are several other names from Graham-Grimes, Grymes ,Grim, Gorim from the Scandinavian name before Scotland. Cromwell basically hunted my family and we had to change names. There is also the education factor where many people couldn’t write, so the name was written as an interpretation of the way it was pronounced.

DNA is probably going to be the best way. But there has to be two written documents to prove an historical fact. Really without that, it is all just speculation and can’t be proven... And so the tales will always just be folklore and great stories!

 

I think it would be cool to trace back to Adam and Eve.. but gosh the work and money that would take

 

We couldn’t go past my Great grandparents on my dad’s side until my dad and uncle did a dna test. We were able to connect after that.
Dad retired and research kept him busy. Pretty interesting stuff in my family.
We were just lucky on my dad’s side. My mom’s side not so great. Because of Sherman,and like many southerners on his march route, can’t really get past the War of Northern Aggression..

 

On my dad’s side, his surname link goes to a Joel Wages who moved from east Richland County SC to Auburn, GA in 1820. No one, last I checked, can find where Joel was born or his parents.
Dad’s mom side are from south east Georgia, then “Ireland” (as far back as I traced) in the 1700s.

Mom’s side is much more clear- from Scots (mom’s dad) around Newberry, SC & (mom’s mom) the Lutheran Germans of Little Mountain/Prosperity/Dutch Fork, all in South Carolina. Both sides are quite specific.
Scots came as 1 congregation of Associate Presbyterians in 1770, while the Germans came in batches from the general area south of Stuttgart & Saxony in the mid 1700s- a group of recruiters were going around those areas selling land & opportunity in the area on the west & north of modern Columbia- the Dutch Area (from German Deutch) & including Batesville/Leesville & large areas of countryside. That area is still filled with Lutheran churches & German surnames.

 

Pre Ancestry.com and other genealogy sites, my father traced his side to 1719 on one side and 1880's on another tree that I know goes back further but my copy stops due to lack of paper space. All backed up with documentation and we are even still in touch with, and have visited, family in Norway after my Great Grandparents came over in 1913 on the Hellig Olav out of Khristiania and into New York.

http://www.norwayheritage.com/galle...&categoryid=9&text=&imageid=744&box=&shownew=

My mom went on MyHeritage and traced back a very questionable distance... Apparently I am related to Ragnar Lothbrok. Yes, from the show, "Vikings". However, he does hold various forms of questionable existence depending on what sources you look into. Like @Tartan Jack said above. I'd like to see the documentation from 9th Century CE.