Wyeth-Scott Power Puller Hand Winch

This guy makes a great case for the Wyeth-Scott More Power Puller, more versatility and less cost/maintenance than an electric.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxi7W7ez_9k

It's on my Santa want list.

 

Just saw your posting of this video in another thread and I'm sold, I have no need to invest in a winch but this would surely be an excellent alternative to have in the truck. Thanks!

 

I will most likely be going this route as well.

 

After 10 feet of pulling and cranking, you'll be wishing for an electric.

I'd say hand winches are a good backup to an electric winch. But I wouldn't want to rely on one as my primary, especially if I'm making multiple pulls a day.

Also, and this is probably more important, even the heavier duty one (6000#) is still far smaller than the generally accepted 1.5 x max vehicle weight *minimum* capacity for recovery winches. This would struggle to get your bogged truck out of the mud.

Also, you can't drive and winch at the same time like you can with an electric. Unless you are driving and someone else is cranking on the handle, which sounds like a really dumb idea.

 

I think the video makes the case for an emergency recovery while solo, not multiple pulls a day. No doubt an electric winch is going to be easier to use in most conditions but the WS puller is going to better than no winch. It is slow and requires some sweat but beats being stranded.

 

See my comment about it being undersized... A properly sized electric winch isn't just easier to use, it's also safer.

When we're talking safety and recovery, I just don't think those are places to skimp, especially when solo. It's like buying a discount climbing rope.

 

There's no skimping with the Wyeth-Scott More Power Puller. It's not undersized and is one of the safest winches there are for off road Tacoma recovery.

The Wyeth-Scott 3 ton model boasts 12,000lb pulling power due it's snatch block and it's rated 6000lbs for dead lift. So the W/S winch is within the safe 1.5 weight pulling limit you quoted. Remember it's made to be used with its snatch block which doubles the 6000lb (3 ton) dead lift limit when pulling.

The W/S Power Puller is a proven recovery system, and is US made. With the blue dyneema rope option it's alot safer than some of the electric steel cable winches out there.

More info links:

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/9/18/vehicle-self-recovery-it-s-in-your-hands/

http://www.offroaders.com/directory/products/more-power-puller.htm

I still plan to buy one for emergency recovery.

 

First, I never said it wasn't high quality, or even that it wasn't "safe". My "safer" comment is based purely on the rated capacity, not build quality.

Second, your *single line* pull is what the 1.5x minimum is based on, not the double line pull. Maybe it's different for hand winches, but I can't see that being the case.

For example, my VR10 has a 10k single line rating, but can pull 20k with a snatch block. It's got a 10k rating.

Third, not that this was anything I bought up before, but since you did; synth line isn't any "safer" for recovery unless you make a habit of standing too close to the cable during a pull. Don't do that in either case, that's dumb. Both types of rope are unsafe when mishandled. Although there is definitely a reason to have synth line for a hand winch since by definition you *have to* be next to the line, lol...

Fourth, I never said you shouldn't get one, nor did I even say I wouldn't get one either. Like I said, it would make a great backup to an electric winch. I have a hi-lift that serves a similar function, but these are definitely easier to set up than my hi-lift...

 

Jbrandt,

I'm just posting facts about the Wyeth-Scott Power Puller. I did not state the W/S is for everyone nor did I make any incorrect claims.

If you have any first hand experience with the W/S I am all ears. If not then I would refrain from posting anymore misinformation such as you have.

https://www.wyeth-scott.com/usedby.php

 

You call it misinformation, I call it a different opinion, and having a different standard for what I personally consider safe. I'm sure I do things that you wouldn't consider safe, but that's what makes life interesting.

I'm sorry you are offended by that.

If they made one, I'd be 100% on board with a 4-ton single line rated model, as that meets the standard rule of thumb for minimum ratings for recovery equipment. But like I said at the beginning, I wouldn't use it as primary recovery equipment.

Again, that's my *opinion*.

 

Not offended at all, just correcting your "opinions" was all. Misconceptions are common on the internet right?

The Wyeth-Scott is still on my want list.

 

My concern with using this winch compared to an electric if you are by yourself is you're pulling dead weight with this. Electric you're likely inside the vehicle with a handheld controller also using the engine to help.

 

Say Wyeth Scott one more time and one will appear from thin air.

 

Dang autocomplete

 

The blue dyneema rope does not store energy so whiplash is not as much as an issue as with steel cable. I would still lay a weighted blanket, jacket etc or other item on the blue rope as a precaution. It also does not splinter like steel cable does. Since the hand winch won't be exposed to the elements the blue rope won't degrade very fast.

The main con to this winch is speed and sweat. It's going to be slow so don't choose it if that's an issue. I usually reverse course or take an alternate route anyways if conditions are that bad depending on the situation.

An electric winch is going to be easier and faster in alot of situations. But I like the versatility of this winch, the ability to winch from almost any angle is a big draw.

 

If you try to winch more with this puller than it is rated for the handle is designed to bend first.

 

https://youtu.be/XLx-B3EBqWg

 

FYI, synthetic line still stores energy. The force in the line is the exact same as it is for steel for pulling a given load. The safety comes from how much less it weighs and the higher tensile strength resulting in lower elongation.

I've used similar power pullers, and agree they're nice to have, but are more winch augmenters than replacements. The biggest issue is the line length. You only have 35' of line (17.5' when doubled). Do you always have an anchor within that distance? Do you have enough other line or straps to make an extension to the nearest anchor? Do you have the right combo of gear for every stage of the pull? I've done recoveries with power pullers that took 3+ hours when a winch would have done the job in 10 min just due to the amount of time it takes to set everything to an anchor point and the trial and error required when changing.

I do like power pullers (and keep one in the truck) for positioning another portion of the vehicle when on snow/mud where you risk a further slide when moving. Just make sure you have solid attachment points (rear bumper, sliders, etc...). They're also good to help others who don't have a winch recover when they're stuck someplace and you can't get your truck into position to help.

 

Good post, lots of good info and opinions! I carry both the Wyeth Scott and have a Warn winch that I can mount on the front or rear of the truck. "Hopefully" enough straps (90') to reach the nearest anchor point. It's all about options when things go south, the more tools in the box the better.