1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

All Things Bikes and Tacos! (...and every vehicle imaginable)

Discussion in 'Sports, Hobbies & Interests' started by Gunshot-6A, Aug 10, 2016.

  1. Aug 21, 2019 at 6:46 PM
    backcountryj

    backcountryj Pending Approval

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2010
    Member:
    #41950
    Messages:
    6,869
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jonathan
    GA
    Thinking of picking up a new saddle as the one I’m currently running has a slightly bent rail. I know saddles are a very personal preference type of component, but I’ve honestly always just ridden what was already on any given bike I’ve owned.

    Any particular models that folks have found to be winners with lots of people? I get discounts on WTB and Fizik so I’m looking at those brands most, but open to anything and not fully set on buying anyway as it’s not a super high priority to me.
     
  2. Aug 22, 2019 at 4:10 AM
    honda50r

    honda50r Not a Mallcrawler

    Joined:
    May 9, 2017
    Member:
    #218593
    Messages:
    4,108
    Gender:
    Male
    East Tennessee
    Vehicle:
    2nd Gen Tacoma
    Not Stock
    A WTB Volt is a typical OEM saddle that works for a lot of people, I have one on my trail bike.
     
  3. Aug 22, 2019 at 4:49 AM
    Built2Ride

    Built2Ride Who wants to ride out?! PM Me.

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2018
    Member:
    #263915
    Messages:
    9,946
    First Name:
    JB
    Southeast
    Vehicle:
    ‘17 TacoTRDPro, ‘18 T4RTRDPro, ‘12 Tundra, ‘07 FJC
    All my rigs are purpose built. From crawling to camping. I also enjoy a nice stock truck for what that’s worth. Toyota’s are the jam!
    X2 on the WTB Volt, however I did ride a friends bike that had the WTB Koda seat I think it’s called. Very comfy indeed.
    IMO I would buy a couple of them that are different, and not spend over $50-75 a seat.
    I think a lot of people buy a seat and roll with it, instead of giving a few a shot.
     
    backcountryj[QUOTED] likes this.
  4. Aug 22, 2019 at 4:51 AM
    CBrew

    CBrew Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2019
    Member:
    #288938
    Messages:
    20
    Gender:
    Male
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2019 Cement Tacoma TRD OR
    x3 on the Volt, I picked up the Koda for the GF and it was so comfortable I was going to buy it for myself, my shop let me demo a Volt and it was even better
     
    backcountryj likes this.
  5. Aug 22, 2019 at 5:14 AM
    abacall

    abacall Life's too short

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2018
    Member:
    #244577
    Messages:
    1,621
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Phil
    UT
    Vehicle:
    2020 VooDoo DCSB OR
    I really like Selle Italia seats.
    You can always go to a shop to get fitted for one. Then you know you got the right saddle for your sit bones. The extra $ would definitely be worth it.

    *Assuming tire pressure is correct.
    Sounds like air pressure is too high, or build up in the negative air chamber. Have you tried the zip tie trick?
    Typically the advice is to drop the air a bit. If you’re using too much travel, pop in a token.
    Could also be rebound is too slow, causing the delay in extension which makes the tire slam into the next bump rather than follow the ground smoothly.
    What’s your kitted weight and setting right now?

    Personally, if I know a section of trail that has a little bit of everything I like to ride, I session it with a pump in my pack. Make changes, repeat until it feels good.
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2019
  6. Aug 22, 2019 at 5:16 AM
    113tac

    113tac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2009
    Member:
    #18439
    Messages:
    8,497
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Stephen
    Northern Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Magnetic Gray Tacoma
    Mostly Stock for now, 265 75 16 Falken AT3W, Tinted fronts...
    My stache had a Bontrager Arvada when I got it. Super comfy. I had planned on swapping to try the new Ergon saddles but I’m probably not gonna do it haha
     
    backcountryj[QUOTED] likes this.
  7. Aug 22, 2019 at 5:33 AM
    ridge

    ridge One Gear; No Fear

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Member:
    #15954
    Messages:
    420
    Gender:
    Male
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    '17 TRD Sport DCSB M6
    MESO!
    I haven't had to face a bottom bracket shell in over a decade... especially on any modern frame. I'd probably look into it more often on an old steel frame, or maybe an AL that might get tweaked with bigger hits, but it's pretty easy to determine if the shell faces are parallel.

    Unlike others here (shocking, I know); I recently went away from my Adamo saddles and switched to SQLab. It took a bit of adjustment to get used to the iso insert, but I'm digging it now. Granted, my use case for saddles is finding ones I can sit on for hours at a time rather than minutes, but that's my recommendation. They will send you a "fit kit" if you really want one, but you can achieve the same result with an unused piece of corrugated cardboard and a hard surface on which to sit. In a pair of thin shorts or your underoos; sit on the cardboard and press your sit bones into the corrugation. Stand up without dragging the cardboard and measure from center to center of the divots left behind. That will give you a starting number for the proper seat width for your sit bones.
     
    abacall and backcountryj[QUOTED] like this.
  8. Aug 22, 2019 at 5:49 AM
    goose443

    goose443 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2016
    Member:
    #189076
    Messages:
    741
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Austin
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2016 Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4
    Thank you for your input! I don’t think it needs it, just read online that it was very important for an external bearing BB
     
    ridge[QUOTED] likes this.
  9. Aug 22, 2019 at 5:49 AM
    Built2Ride

    Built2Ride Who wants to ride out?! PM Me.

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2018
    Member:
    #263915
    Messages:
    9,946
    First Name:
    JB
    Southeast
    Vehicle:
    ‘17 TacoTRDPro, ‘18 T4RTRDPro, ‘12 Tundra, ‘07 FJC
    All my rigs are purpose built. From crawling to camping. I also enjoy a nice stock truck for what that’s worth. Toyota’s are the jam!
    I got some extra cardboard leftover...
    upload_2019-8-22_8-49-39.jpg
     
  10. Aug 22, 2019 at 6:55 AM
    A_Hooligan

    A_Hooligan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2017
    Member:
    #234800
    Messages:
    88
    Gender:
    Male
    ive been running the specialized power saddle on my hardtail and have been liking it. But currently have a sella italia SLR on every other bike!
     
  11. Aug 22, 2019 at 8:42 AM
    dman100

    dman100 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2016
    Member:
    #180009
    Messages:
    2,202
    Central Coast, California
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD OR DCSB
    I am 100% happy with the OEM WB Volt that came with my Tallboy. Four years old and still comfy and holding up well.
     
  12. Aug 22, 2019 at 9:26 AM
    Gunshot-6A

    Gunshot-6A [OP] Prime Beef

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2009
    Member:
    #28389
    Messages:
    23,243
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Conner
    Everett, WA
    Vehicle:
    2015 TRD Offroad
    With a name like that it better massage your prostate or some shit :rofl:
     
    honda50r and 113tac like this.
  13. Aug 22, 2019 at 10:19 AM
    dynamicweight

    dynamicweight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2017
    Member:
    #211981
    Messages:
    332
    Gender:
    Male
    I weigh 160 pounds. I'll have to weigh myself with all the kit on. I am currently riding with no pack so I don't imagine I weigh over 170 with everything.

    I set the pressure to default, which is 85 for my front fork and 120 for my rear shock. I adjusted that a little bit for sag but.... I really don't know how anyone can tell on an unmarked stanchion where 15% is. Let alone distinguishing between 15 and 20. I also don't have a shock pump. I really like your idea of sessioning a section that has the stuff I want to tune for. Maybe it's time to invest in the shock pump and bring it along on a ride.

    Didn't even know about burping my fork with a zip tie. I'll try that too.

    Quick Edit: Anyone have a shock pump recommendation?

    Second edit: Found this one, any thoughts?
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2019
    113tac likes this.
  14. Aug 22, 2019 at 10:21 AM
    trekinit

    trekinit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2017
    Member:
    #225866
    Messages:
    111
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Yee-Bo
    Knoxville, TN
    Vehicle:
    08 AC TRD OR
    Here ya go. I think @honda50r is running this one.tnnrY.jpg
     
    jmauvais, PNWskibum, abacall and 5 others like this.
  15. Aug 22, 2019 at 11:19 AM
    abacall

    abacall Life's too short

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2018
    Member:
    #244577
    Messages:
    1,621
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Phil
    UT
    Vehicle:
    2020 VooDoo DCSB OR
    *Assuming you're tubeless and running the right pressures.

    For Fox stuff, most people recommend air set to body weight for the shock, and less than half for the fork. That's just a starting point though, and terrain and riding style will change that up.
    I'm not familiar with the 32, but in the 36 I'm running 3-5 less than half body weight, with a token to add some ramp up. This can achieve small bump compliance and keep your from blowing through travel. I feel like I'm a pretty aggressive rider, and tend to pick the chunkiest and ugliest lines.
    Maybe start with 80 lbs, adjust rebound to as fast as possible without pogoing, drop in a token.

    Also keep in mind that the rear can also be adding to that harsh feeling. Repeating the same procedure in the back can pay dividends.

    A tuning "trick" is to always ONLY CHANGE ONE THING AT A TIME. Change air, ride, adjust, ride, repeat. Change rebound, ride, adjust, ride, repeat. Change tire pressure in the front, ride, adjust, ride, repeat. You get the idea.

    Play with your settings, and your bike will ride how YOU like it, not how the factory or other people think it should. Also keep in mind you'll likely want to keep fiddling, as your style and conditions change. Tuning is fun.

    EDIT: also, just get a good name brand pump. You don't need digital...
     
  16. Aug 22, 2019 at 11:20 AM
    ridge

    ridge One Gear; No Fear

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Member:
    #15954
    Messages:
    420
    Gender:
    Male
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    '17 TRD Sport DCSB M6
    MESO!
    Measure the exposed stanchion with a metric ruler and note the measurement where it enters the lower in millimeters. Put a zip tie on your outer stanchion such that it's snug, but not tight enough to bind or scratch. Push it all the way down to the bottom, set your air pressure, as gently as you can; get on the bike and place all your loaded weight (gear, hydration reservoir, bottles, etc...) on the pedals without the bike or you leaning against anything (you can have a buddy/spouse hold the handlebars in place for support). Once finished, measure the stanchion again with the same metric ruler in the same position and note/mark where the zip tie ended up.

    Metric measurements are in increments of 1 and progress to the next step up by 10 (10mm = 1 cm), so it's easy to determine percentage of sag along the stanchion with a known baseline measurement.

    Example; if there's 100mm of stanchion exposed while unloaded and, after you sit on it, the measurement is 80, then you've used 20% of the travel for your static sag.
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2019
    E-Paz 732NJ, backcountryj and abacall like this.
  17. Aug 22, 2019 at 12:04 PM
    dynamicweight

    dynamicweight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2017
    Member:
    #211981
    Messages:
    332
    Gender:
    Male
    I found
    I am using tubes. Running 25psi.

    Thanks so much for the advice. I think this will give me a good place to start fiddling.

    Also, whats a token?
     
    abacall[QUOTED] likes this.
  18. Aug 22, 2019 at 12:06 PM
    dynamicweight

    dynamicweight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2017
    Member:
    #211981
    Messages:
    332
    Gender:
    Male
    Great advice. That is basically what I did. Here's the thing though, I don't think my full travel is the whole stanchion. It definitely stops before it uses the whole thing. Is the 15% referring to the total length of the stanchion or as a percentage of total travel?
     
  19. Aug 22, 2019 at 12:36 PM
    J_Hacker

    J_Hacker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2016
    Member:
    #197896
    Messages:
    437
    Gender:
    Male
    Somewhere in Virginia
    Vehicle:
    '19 White Tundra Crewmax
    Bilstein 6112, CB +2 Shackles, Soft Topper, Method 316, 295’s
    WTB volt as well. Super comfy. Don’t really need to wear chamois with this saddle but still do for extra comfort.
     
  20. Aug 22, 2019 at 1:13 PM
    ridge

    ridge One Gear; No Fear

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Member:
    #15954
    Messages:
    420
    Gender:
    Male
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    '17 TRD Sport DCSB M6
    MESO!
    Here's the cutaway for the Fox 32. What they refer to as spacers are what @abacall is calling tokens.

    https://www.ridefox.com/dl/bike/605-00-192-32-Tuning-Guide-revA.pdf

    cutaway-32sc.jpg
     

Products Discussed in

To Top