Ford introducing an all Electric F150. Nissan soon to follow. But not with an F150...

I hear Ford and Nissan are both introducing electric trucks. Tesla and Rivian will soon
also. I wonder if Toyota has any in the works?
An electric 300hp 345ft-lb Tacoma might be interesting.

 

Man I hope that's not the design of the F-150...wow..

 

I've read Toyota hopes to have offerings by 2025. The electric drivetrains and gobs of usable torque that come at 1 rpm are awesome. I still dont think battery tech is where it needs to be for truck stuff like pulling trailers cross country and driving around for days in the middle of nowhere. I hope somebody figures out a range extender like the microturbines that have been experimented with in electric trash trucks.

 

Would wheel an electric.

 

I want a plug in electric Tacoma. Best of both worlds. I can commute on electric and then when I go on road trips I don’t have to worry about range and can bring extra fuel with me. I think 40 miles of electric range is the sweet spot for most of us.

Either way the future of trucks is very exciting with new electric options, diesel being offered in more trucks, and electric powertrains coming soon.

 

Diesel is done.

A hybrid that is designed for power (rather than efficiency) can put out a ton of torque low with the electric motor and a ton of torque high with the gas motor.

Unless you're talking a diesel electric similar to trains where the diesel engine charges the batteries which then runs the electric motor, but that would be more on the efficiency side

 

The diesels of today are shit tho. Not in terms of power or torque. But in terms of reliability and maintenance. Thanks government

 

I would say diesel is done for Toyota. They have made it pretty clear they aren’t exploring bringing it to the states. Other manufacturers are still exploring it in trucks and SUV’s though. I’d say the low sales numbers for the Ranger likely will keep them from doing a diesel powertrain in that model though.

I have read on this forum about the possibility of diesel electric similar to a train however I have no knowledge of how that works and most seem to agree it’s not feasible for an automobile.

That leaves hybrid or electric options as likely the next thing. I would prefer them more for efficiency than power though. I don’t go on the highway anymore for my commute so naturally my mpg’s suck, so a hybrid for around town efficiency would be awesome. I wouldn’t be opposed to some low end torque though!

 

The drivetrain in the Chevy Volt as well as some of the hybrid Honda's are the same as trains use. Gasoline engines function as generators to drive the electric motor which then drives the cars.

Diesel, in theory, sounds like the better option here since they make torque down low compared to gassers that make torque up high.

But, the added cost of fuel and emission equipment makes diesel sound more expensive since these cars are marketed as an electric car with a just in case gas engine that you will only need to use once in awhile.

If Toyota put out a hybrid Tacoma that gets +10mpg it'd be a no brainier, even if it was still a turd gen

 

I'm hoping we get electric trucks similar to the Tesla design with 100+ miles of range.

 

I’m not sure about the Honda but I think the BMW i3 is a better comparison here. In that, the engine isn’t connected to the drivetrain and it’s sole purpose is as a generator. In the Volt however the engine does drive the car once the battery is depleted. I believe Chevy said that the engine will recharge the battery only when the battery is getting low on charge. My friend has a Volt and that car is what made me really rethink the plug in hybrid system. However if the car only has 20 miles of electric range like the Prius prime I think the price premium isn’t worth it over a regular hybrid. That is why I think 40 miles of range is better.

Oh man, if Toyota came out with a hybrid Tacoma that got 10+ mpg better tomorrow I would be thinking really hard about selling my truck for it. Fortunately for me I think Toyota has a goal closer to 2023 for an electric or hybrid Tacoma which should be exactly when I can afford a new truck.

 

ive been told toyota has a plan to offer a hybrid option in every model by 2025

 

My only concern with full electric is price. The Rivian is undeniably awesome, but the price for it starts at 68k I think which is absurd. Musk has said the Tesla truck will start around 50k but judging by how they release vehicles that model will likely come out 2 years after production begins. If somebody can make one with 200+ miles of range and starts around 40-45k then there might be mass interest in it. Tesla I think would be the best bet to get this done.

 

Not to mention all of the millions people living in apartments and condos with nowhere to plug in, they’re not buying one.

 

As someone who has lived in apartment for the past 7 years I totally agree with you. The biggest benefit of having an EV is recharging every day. And until charging infrastructure improves people who live in apartments without charging ports won't likely seriously consider an EV.