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Squeaky Dakars : Any advice from others with the Dakars ?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by OZ-T, May 10, 2011.

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  1. Apr 21, 2019 at 3:11 PM
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    go2cnavy

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    Not exactly true. Removing the overload (or both in my case) does change the ride quality immensely since the leafs can articulate past where the overload spring(s) once were. The overload act to “catch” the “top” leaf pack to keep it from over flexing.

    If you don’t carry any substantial weight, when the top leaf pack interacts with the overload it’s like hitting a wall of steel and essentially prevents the springs from flexing any further.

    In my case, I got about 1.5” of travel before contact with the overloads and it rode like crap.
     
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  2. Apr 21, 2019 at 3:21 PM
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    Torque specs matter

    After removing my overload spring and making sure everything was torqued to spec, my squeaks were gone. After a few days of driving, I went to check/re-torque the u-bolt nuts to 50 Nm in case there was any settling. Two were a little shy of specs so I re-torqued them.

    I then figured I’d “add a couple turns” on the other too just to be safe. I put my torque wrench away and went to pick my daughter up from work and SQUEAKS were back.

    When I got home, I immediately set them back to 50 Nm and squeaks are GONE.
     
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  3. Apr 22, 2019 at 9:31 AM
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    ARB front locker, Custom high clearance rear bumper, Custom plate front bumper, mile marker winch PE8, safari snorkel, Deck Plate Mod Fox 2.5 rr DSC, Camburg UCA, squeaky Dakar leafs, 5125 10" and custom 7.5" shackles, thee finest PNW pinstripes, MT-R, Nissan crew cab roof rack??? wtf is that about??? Allpro skids, Rigid duallys President McKinley CB with PA Recaro SRD with Wedge Engineering Morimoto retrofits Champion Rad - Failed Tundra brakes
    Installed new Dakars with AAL from @Wheeler's Off-Road Inc
    Much better load handling with the RTT (fat ass thang that it is).

    Still trying to figure this crap out from the prior owner...

     
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    Yetimetchkangmi, Apr 22, 2019
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  4. Apr 22, 2019 at 3:54 PM
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  5. Apr 22, 2019 at 4:31 PM
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    you and me both!

    We started removing parts (thank goodness the u-bolts cooperated in allowing us to remove them without buzzing them off with a cut off wheel) and the bump stop on the top of the leaf had a larger hole ground another inch forward of where you would expect it to be along the vertical line of the bottom bolt. Nope, it was off set just like the top bolt. It looked like a hack job - add a mini leaf that will never be used except for a 1/3" lift...
     
    Yetimetchkangmi, Apr 22, 2019
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  6. Jun 23, 2019 at 1:52 PM
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    I installed the zip ties today, and for the first time since I put my OME suspension in, the ride is silent! Such an easy and inexpensive fix. Thank you, sir!
     
    mattygaff, Jun 23, 2019
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  7. Sep 15, 2019 at 9:01 AM
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    I'm in the process of rebuilding a set of dakars to anyone using the speedway liners howz it holding up pics.etc.any usefull info would be appreciated thanx
     
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  8. Sep 22, 2019 at 5:08 PM
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    I’m using the liners on hd Dakar pack. No noise yet been running them about a year or so.
     
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  9. Sep 22, 2019 at 11:45 PM
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    speedway liners?
     
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  10. Sep 23, 2019 at 3:36 AM
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    Yes, speedway liners
     
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    Ok Yes I quoted myself..

    Update:
    so the prior owner pushed the axle back with the additional hole offset.
    How do I know this? At full compression, I am grinding off fender flare(s)...
     
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  13. Sep 30, 2019 at 10:10 PM
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    I just ran into this with my progressive AAL from Wheelers. The bottom 2 leaf's don't have any silencer pads and it is metal to metal contact. I took my leaf's apart and wire wheeled them to get the rust an dirt off between the leaf's and paainted the bare spots. On the AAL part I took my dremel and took out all the sharp edges that were making contact with the spring and painted the bare metal. I got it all back together and it is quiet for now and hopefully for good. I have to retorque the u bolts in a couple of days. I hope I solved the problem. Will keep you updated.
     
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  14. Oct 1, 2019 at 7:10 AM
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    I pulled my el095r dakars out this spring after 1 winter season and re installed my factory pack with a block because I couldn't handle the creaking noise any more with the advice from my local spring shop I ditched the poly bushings where it seemed my noise was coming from and had the spring shop press in factory bushings I then disassembled them painted with POR 15 installed the
    $14 dorman 31067 rear leaf spring inserts compatible with select models, 2 pack
    dorman 31067 anti friction pads and add a leaf to make them the hd pack reinstalled them and sounds quite so far will see what happens after a winter salt cycle20190928_093220.jpg 20190928_093148.jpg
     
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  15. Nov 9, 2019 at 8:00 AM
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    I just got new dakars. They have the yellow pads between each spring on the ends and a metal plate between each leaf in the middle. I also got the speedway liners. I was thinking of removing the metal plates and then installing the liners in between the yellow pads in between each leaf. This way the total height of the spring won't be affected. Or should I leave (haha punny) the metal plates in?

    Anyone see a problem with this? Are the metal plates just spacers?
     
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  16. Nov 9, 2019 at 8:02 AM
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    How did you put these on? Over the metal plates, in between the yellow pads?
     
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  17. Nov 9, 2019 at 12:59 PM
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    Still quiet on the Western Front. I guess before putting any new or progressive AAL leaf springs in is to take them apart and make sure that the plastic pads are in place and that all the sharp edges are smoothed down. Repaint the bare spots to help keep the rust down. Hope this helps.
     
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    I left the pads in with the speedway liners. No noises here.
     
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  19. Nov 11, 2019 at 5:42 PM
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    Over metal plates and cut them before getting to the yellow pads.
     
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  20. Nov 27, 2019 at 3:01 PM
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    Put mine on this weekend with the speedway liners. Haven't heard a single squeak yet in 3 days.
     
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