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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by grubburg, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. Oct 2, 2019 at 4:58 PM
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    Sucks. My stock TRD OR used to eat up bumps like a Cadillac off road. The new 5100s 888s and SPC UCAs with Headstrong-3 leaf rides stiffer than anything. I hate it. It looks cool, but c'mon?

    Do all lift kits ride like this? Super unhappy. It's livable on road, but off road i'm driving way slower.
     
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  2. Oct 2, 2019 at 5:26 PM
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    What notch are you using on the 5100’s?

    I have 5100/888 & RCD/B110 5100/Dakar mediums and the front feels just like stock while the rear is actually better than stock.
     
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  3. Oct 2, 2019 at 5:31 PM
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    Bottom notch
     
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  4. Oct 2, 2019 at 5:38 PM
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    And it’s the front that is suffering in ride quality? That’s interesting since I have the same setup and am quite pleased with it. I replaced mine when my truck was 1mo old so I had a good new vs new comparison.
     
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  5. Oct 3, 2019 at 12:43 PM
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    That's interesting. My experience is exactly opposite. I replaced mine at 700 miles, and I'm also running 5100'a with 888's and the HS 3-leaf AAL. The ride is significantly better than stock suspension especially over rough surfaces. I have stock UCA's, but I don't think that would make much of a difference.
     
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    What could it be then?
     
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  7. Oct 3, 2019 at 1:12 PM
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    Tires?
     
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  8. Oct 3, 2019 at 1:14 PM
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    Yeah, could be tires or tire pressure. I'm running E-rated 285's and it's still pretty smooth. How many miles have you put on the new setup?
     
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  9. Oct 3, 2019 at 2:03 PM
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    1,500 miles
     
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  10. Oct 3, 2019 at 2:04 PM
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    285/70/17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers on regular air pressure (35 PSI) and load C
     
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    That's crazy, almost exactly what I'm running...285/75R16 Ridge Grapplers at around 32psi cold. I don't have much weight added, just a bed rack and a tent. No bumpers/sliders/winch.
     
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  12. Oct 3, 2019 at 2:32 PM
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    maybe un-torque, re-torque everything? :der:
     
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    it's definitely the front AND back
     
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    How much weight do you have in the back? You may be oversprung in the rear. I've got 888's and 5100's with HD Dakars and actually find the suspension to be a bit on the soft side. Is there a particular situation when you find that it is too firm?
     
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    No weight anywhere. Just a plain lifted taco.

    it's stiff going over anything.
     
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    May be worth throwing some weight in the bed and seeing if it's any better. FWIW, the 888's are intended to be medium duty springs also. I've got quite a bit more weight on mine with skids/sliders/roof stuff.
     
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    888’s are 590lb spring rate, pretty light.

    Per Headstrong:
    • OME 883: 375mm in height, 590 pound spring rate
    • OME 884: 390mm in height 590 pound spring rate
    • OME 885: 395mm in height 590 pound spring rate
    • OME 886: 402mm in height 660 pound spring rate
    • OME 887: 400mm in height 590 pound spring rate
    • OME 888: 405 mm in height 590 pound spring rate
    The emerging consensus is that the 3rd gens have a little more weight up front from the factory than the 2nd Gens but all of the suspension out there are based on 2nd Gen specs/knowledge.
     
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