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Taco Lean Update

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Caddmannq, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. Nov 3, 2019 at 5:46 PM
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    Hobbs

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    Yep…
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    No, I don't think you're bad. Actually, I think you do good work. I like the paint on the Cuda. I'm not crazy about the color, but that's irrelevant as it's a personal choice. :thumbsup:
     
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  2. Nov 3, 2019 at 6:19 PM
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    I'll paint your taco any color you want when the time comes! Lol
     
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  3. Nov 3, 2019 at 6:21 PM
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    Thanks, but my Taco is exactly the color it needs to be! :thumbsup: :burnrubber:
     
  4. Nov 3, 2019 at 6:31 PM
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    I mean in like 20 years when it's all rusted. Paint party
     
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  5. Nov 3, 2019 at 6:37 PM
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    Rust?? There is like 0% humidity here in the desert. I'll be in a 4Runner by then... :fingerscrossed:
     
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  6. Nov 4, 2019 at 6:12 AM
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    Nothing was really corrected until I wedged the left rear spring. Now it runs straight without passengers in the truck. That spring is soft.

    Unfortunately you folks were absolutely worthless in helping me determine that rear spring was a problem.

    I came here with serious questions and ideas and I got insults and thread crappers. No stupid quarter inch shim on the front spring was going to correct this issue. Two different alignment shops did not understand the problem.

    So it should not surprise me that no one here did either.
     
  7. Nov 4, 2019 at 6:13 AM
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    :duh:
     
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  8. Nov 4, 2019 at 8:01 AM
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    You came asking for advise for a non-existent problem on a mass-built production truck that, in your mind should have handling characteristics of a race truck. Excuse us for not having such answers.

    Worthless? Go crap on some race truck forum fan boys with your wealth of race expertise. None of us care

    “If someone corrects you, and you feel offended, then you have an ego problem.”

    Nouman Ali Khan
     
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  9. Nov 6, 2019 at 8:22 AM
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    Hate on my ego if you must, but even ego-mania will not affect a bad spring.

    I have a used truck & it's gotten worse with time.

    At just 45,000 miles, it has a real problem. This is far from cosmetic.

    Adding weight to the bed improved handling, and the rear springs look much beefier than my 2009 Tacoma DCLB, thus I never suspected the rear springs would be at issue.
    Nobody mentioned this, and from what I read here I actually thought that "weak rear springs" issue was long ago corrected.

    Not so much, I now find.
    In fact, putting stiffer front springs on made the weak left rear spring more evident.

    So now I must figure out what springs I have, and decide to buy new springs, shim one, have them re-arched, add an overload leaf, or whatever.
    At least acceptable alignment was finally achieved with air, but that's not the purpose of the air bags.

    The springs need to be balanced.
     
  10. Nov 6, 2019 at 9:11 AM
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    I have the same issue after putting on front springs from a 3rd gen on my second gen. Never noticed the lean before but now it’s quite evident. Sitting 1” lower on drivers rear. I guess I’ll need leaf helper springs?
     
  11. Nov 6, 2019 at 9:48 AM
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    Be warned . This is not a "Taco Lean" thread. Or at least not the Taco Lean phenomenon that's a result of adding an off road lift on a Tacoma.

    There are many other lean threads with the info you're looking for. Perhaps the Mod's can change the thread title of this train wreck
     
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  12. Nov 6, 2019 at 9:59 AM
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    This is a "I want my tacoma to ride like a race truck" thread.
     
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  13. Nov 6, 2019 at 11:07 AM
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    I'm not so concerned about the Aesthetics of having a truck that does not sit exactly level but the problem is that on the road it will wander and pull because of the weak spring.

    Because of the unbalanced nature of the truck the left springs take more load and clearly have worn down faster.

    I guess I have a jacked up Toyota and it leans toward the driver's side, but somehow yet I don't really have the "official" taco lean because of some unexplained technicality.

    Anyhow it seems we have some popular members here who are first-rate at creating insults on the internet, but not so good when it comes to explaining themselves or to diagnosing suspension problems.

    We're just so lucky to have them.
     
  14. Nov 6, 2019 at 11:38 AM
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    Why didn’t you just replace the left rear spring if it was bad? I’ve read the thread and apparently you know everything about a suspension set but you didn’t realize you had a sagging rear spring, so you made some 35lb weight to add to the left front, put air bags and adjusted them with different amounts of air, front coil overs to try and distribute weight differently and it came down to a bad rear spring.
     
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  15. Nov 6, 2019 at 12:27 PM
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    You forgot to mention his custom adjustable tie rod ends
     
  16. Nov 6, 2019 at 12:29 PM
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    Damn it, hate it when I miss something.
     
  17. Nov 6, 2019 at 12:49 PM
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    I've been to two suspension shops and neither one told me I had a bad spring.

    I thought it was the left front spring that was bad, as in my mind Toyota had long fixed that week rear spring issue.

    Anyhow I wanted stiffer front Springs so I could add some equipment up front, and the lead weight is also a test weight. I'd like to add another battery and some other things and I wanted to see the effect of the extra weight.

    The airbags and rear stabilizer bar came off of my 2009 Tacoma, as did the adjustable Bilstein shocks. I saved all that stuff from when it was totaled. I'm sorry if you don't like it.

    Go back and read it again because that's not what I said. Anything else is your own imagination.



    Well that's not exactly right. I changed the front Springs because I thought it was a front spring. As it turns out the left front spring and left rear spring were both soft.

    The weight is on the passenger side which is the right side.

    I think I've explained everything else but you be sure to let me know if you're not satisfied.

    I'm working in my home garage and I don't have the luxury of a suspension shop at my disposal.
     
  18. Nov 6, 2019 at 12:55 PM
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    Maybe you both missed the fact that they were not tie rod ends, but they were links for the stabilizer bar.

    I made 1 in adjustable because I broke that link, and making is it adjustable was he easiest way to repair it with the materials I had on hand.

    Also it eliminated me having to make that link the exact length.
     

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