Back up tire air

Not that it can't happen but why not go E-range tires with only 1 spare?

10 plys are hard to kill (not impossible, but difficult). Plus they can air way down -

 

Primary flat mitigation: E rated BFGs (never gotten a flat in 15+ years)

Secondary: tire patches, spare valve kit, spare tire (that's *inflated*), 5 gallon air tank (harbor freight), and my 400P.

Tertiary: not traveling alone, discussing a drop dead time/date with someone not on the trip.

I don't see a reason to carry 16 air pumps.

 

3 things plan ahead,

bring at least 1 known good spare (check pressure and condition before leaving),

leave info on your earliest, and latest return times with someone not going on the trip.. contact them when you return, or when you get to cell reception areas... this also falls in line with bring multiple means of communication... CELL, GMRS, HAM, CB.. these can be useful, and can help, also bring paper maps (printoffs from google maps, or buy a foldable map... )

bring basic tools, and spare parts for known breakage items tie rods, cv axle, grease, tire iron/sockets, and wrenches, good jack (bottle jack prefereed)...

 

An idea I am playing with is ditching the CO2 tank for a Dewalt 20v inflator. C02 tank is wonderful but needs to be refilled thus I don’t use in all situations.

Also, I will be carrying a ground tent and awning and have some new screw in pegs which will use the 20v impact driver. One battery, two tools...

Last but not least, I am planning to have a road shower in the future and they don’t recommend CO2 for pressure.

 

I got the

$91 VIAIR 88p Portable Compressor Kit (12V, 120 Psi, Forup to 33" Tires)

VIAIR 88p... works great.. solid little pump got my stock tires from 15psi to 34PSI in under 90 seconds. $60 cant beat it...

 

I just picked one of these up too. I was really impressed for the price.

I home brew and have multiple tanks for my kegerator so I’m probably just going to pick up one of the adapters and throw a 5lb co2 in as spare on big trips.

 

If you have truck tires, I would pass on that pump.

ANY pump that plugs into a cigarette lighter plug will more than likely blow your fuse when trying to inflate a truck tire, or it will just be severely limited on the power it has, so that it won’t blow your fuse.

Just get one that connects direct to the car battery. It will be a LOT faster and more powerful.

Plus, the

$91 Viair 88p Portable Compressor Kit (12V, 120 Psi, Forup to 33" Tires)

Viair 88p is less expensive, too.

 

What @jbrandt said.

You're ahead of the game though seeing as how you already have co2; why would you ditch it at all? I leave mine on my truck all the time and it never gets in the way; it is useful seeing as how I helped someone change the tire (and fill it up too) on his Nissan Hard Body about 2-3 months ago.

 

The Dewalt pump I mention runs off a 20v battery, but I do agree it probably be much slower to fill a truck tire. I have since scratched this idea. I do really really like having the 5lb CO2 on board at all times and I also don’t think I need a Roadshower anytime soon.

 

Yeah, but I gotta wonder how long it lasts. Then that's just one more battery to lug around and keep charged. I generally try to minimize the various batteries and such I carry with me on the trail. No cordless impact drivers, etc... for me.

Curious why they don't suggest using CO2 for a road shower? As long as your regulator is functioning properly, I can't see a reason not to. Not like you'd over-pressurize your shower.

Maybe because you're essentially make sparkling water. Might be tempted to drink it...

 

Had all the CO2 gear and 4 tanks. Used em 9 years.

Could not wait until I got a lighter, smaller (physically) more versatile VIAR.

2 years after the swap I smile every time I DON'T have to deal with CO2

 

2 is 1 and 1 is none. I have a

$91 viair 88p portable compressor kit (12V, 120 psi, forup to 33" tires)

viair 88p, I only care one but I do carry spare fuses always when offroading for the pump and my rig

 

But consider this setup, Dewalt 20v chainsaw in the truck at all times, only need bar oil. Impact driver, portable air, strobe light.. lots of versatility. Pack one battery and charger and plug into outlet in bed when driving. I would only use the impact for driving those stakes though as I haven’t got into carrying hardly any tools.

They say CO2 can lead to corrosion overtime. The gas must contain some particle, but I imagine that would take years and years to happen. I kinda got turned off with the idea thinking about how much weight I would have high as I already am planning to carry the Eezi Awn Manta 270 awning once I take delivery of the GFC pop up camper.

The other issue with the CO2 was the regulation. I think the Road shower can only handle 50 or 75 psi and most regulators are for 150. I was having a really hard time finding the proper reg when I was interested.

 

I can't speak to the Dewalt, but the Milwaukee tire inflator works quite well. We've used one to fill up trailer tires and 34" Toyo MTs. I don't remember any numbers or times, but it was definitely handy to set a fill-to PSI and walk away.

 

I've been using Viair compressors for awhile now and the only time one has quit working on me was when it blew a fuse (was my old 88p), it blew a fuse twice in 2 years. Carry extra fuses for it and you're good, highly doubt it will quit working for any other reason. Not likely enough for me to think about carrying another backup compressor anyhow. Always a good idea as well to make sure your spare has air in it before heading out into remote areas.

 

I thought the regulators were adjustable. My buddy homebrews and has a bunch of them that are adjustable. I've seen people just use some 4 or 5" ABS pipe with caps on either end and a valve. The ABS pipe has like 100+psi ratings

Yeah, I carry a handsaw - fits in my door pocket. I've got a gas saw, but I'd only carry that if I know there's going to be a mess, like first run of the season type stuff, usually the trails I run are pretty well cleared. I also don't have a plug in the back, so I'd need a 12v charger. I dunno, I guess for me I tend to try and minimize the stuff that needs "power" when I'm out. Phone (which doubles as a camera) and headlamp is about as far as much power as I need.

 

About three years ago I bought a 24v lith-io powered impact and drill for the truck tool box. The power really impressed me so a year later when I saw a 24V compressor I jumped on it. It was rated at .7scfm at 90psi and i found it moves much more at the pressure we use, 20-45psi, takes my 32" tire from 16 to 34 in under four minutes, I can fill four tires 3-4 times before I need to charge the batt. Then I bought there 24v chainsaw, it's just a toy but works great on small stuff you are likely to encounter on the trail. So I have several batts, they have a 10-12 month storage life before needing a top off and the charger runs fine on my small inverter. Compressor and all other tire stuff fits in a tool bag, sure makes airing down and back up easy peasy.

 

Not mentioned as of yet, CO2 can run air tools. Granted, most are air hogs but in a pinch it can make life a lot easier. The down side is that it's finite.

I carry both a 88P and a 10# CO2 setup. I'm a firm believer in the Scout motto - Be Prepared. Sometimes I go overboard with redundant systems. However, there have been times when redundancy has paid off big time.....

 

Since the question here is backup (old thread I know) then the power tank power shot is perfect. No moving parts to fail, can be refilled anywhere that deals with paintball for a few bucks, and isn’t very big.

 

there are adjustable ones, but they tend to be pricey, and tend to freeze up under high flow rates. such as running an air impact, or cutoff tool.