7P Recovery Ring

FYI. I listed some of the ones I have made on ebay if anyone wants one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Recovery-Ring-for-Offroad-Winch/293349401954

 

There is another option out there as well. I bought my 7P back when there were almost no other options. In Dec I ordered this one from overland vehicle systems. This ring is I think 6.25, and they make I believe a 4" one as well. I want to say the 4" is around 30 shipped and the larger one 40 shipped. I got the larger one, and you can see it compared to my 7p ring. They're pretty much the same beast with the overland systems one having a more V'ed channel for the winch line, that is also shallower than the 7P. Still deep enough function as intended.

 

It might be the lighting, but the inner hole looks like it has an “edge” to it.
How rounded is the hole?

 

Link ??

 

Just as smooth as the 7p. I'm not at home right now, but whatever is there is smooth enough that it feels like there isn't anything that's going to be an issue. It might be flatter in the center than the 7p but it's not a sharp squared shoulder.

Here is the link to the 4" and the 6.25" link is down at the bottom of that page, along with some soft shackles they sell etc.

https://overlandvehiclesystems.com/recovery-ring-4-00-41-000-lb-gray-with-storage-bag-universal/

 

Btw, shipping is free, and tax applies to CA residents. Also, for comparison, I want to say that the 7p is around 5-5.5" across.

 

So I looked at it better now that I'm home. It's pretty much like I described before. There is a shoulder, so to speak, but its rolled enough that I dont feel like it's an issue. Or I should say, I wouldn't think twice about using it. The 7P design is more of a complete U with no discernable shoulder. I tried to get a better pic of it in Hope's that it can help you, or others decide. I don't have any affiliation with the company whatsoever, so I'm not making any claims as to who makes the better product. It's just another option out there for those looking for a ring. I've seen a video showing that any recovery ring adds friction and increases resistance on the winch. Maybe it does maybe it doesn't.. maybe this shoulder would add a couple of more resistance points. My 12k warn is probably overkill for my tacoma so I'll take my chances on it. Even if a traditional snatch block had less resistance, there is still a slight chance that a synthetic rope can get boogered up between the housing and the wheel. Albeit slight, it can happen. So, one has to choose what they feel is the lesser of the evils. I would be comfortable using either of these rings, with no preference to one or the other. I simply wanted a second one in the event I needed to double, triple, or change direction at 2 points. So I think it will serve me fine for those needs. And I didn't want to pay 7P price again.

 

Pic added

 

Thank you for the follow up and sharing of your thoughts. Nice find at a great price point!

 

These are used all the time on racing sailboats

 

I’d like to see a much deeper groove in the black one. The 7p one has the right idea

 

The ones I make have a deeper grove for the winch line and a fully radiuses center bore to be as easy as possible on the soft shackle.

 

Are yours rated

 

Always thought ratings on these were a bit foolish.. I mean its a solid block of aluminum where almost all (if not all) of the force is in compression

 

They are a few at a testing facility right now getting pull tested to see if they will fail at 50,000lbs or if the lines being used in the test break first. I suspect the lines will break, but we will see. As soon as I get the results I will update the ebay listing and start laser etching rating and instructions on them.
In my redneck testing at 24,000lb I was unable to cause any failures.

 

Nice. Good to have at least a minimum breaking strength.

 

No problem, buddy. I only stumbled on it looking for more options. I know I said Dec, but on second thought, I think it was actually late Oct or into Nov when I bought it. Before that I was thinking of getting one of the red ones form the UK, since I had time to wait on it.

I agree it could be improved with more depth. But, that said, I wouldn't expect much issue with the depth it has. I think the deeper depth would just be a little more peace of mind that upon set up, and getting ready to load the line, the user wouldn't have to worry about the winch line slacking out of the channel as easy. But as long as you're tending it until the line is taught, which you pretty much have to do anyway with most any set up, I think that wouldn't be too likely. Once its under tension, I don't think it's gonna go anywhere. Now, maybe if the tree saver slipped for a moment and caused the who rig to change direction suddenly, perhaps it could cause the line to come out of the channel? My thinking is, not likely, but maybe not impossible. As with any rigging, no matter how sound it is, you pretty much have to slow down and continuously be watchful of your riggings and they're placement and always reevaluate. Who knows, with use I may end up using the 7P out of preference. I don't expect to have many situations where I'll need both rings. Even needing one will be much less often than just doing a straight pull. But it'll be nice to have them both when needed.

They look well made, and will no doubt work just as well as any I've seen. If your's were around when I was looking I might have went that route. I like the groove depth and the size. I think you said yours were just under 5"? I don't know why, but I personally like them a little bigger than some of the smaller ones out there. Plus yours is anodized, and I think the vehicle systems one is either powder coated or maybe even some sort of duracoat or something like it.


In the end, I think affordable options are a win win.

 

So I'll just leave this little expensive gem here.

https://factor55.com/product-category/pulleys/

 

Im sure its too much whatever they are charging for it, but it is a really cool idea. Trying to keep the rope in the groove while you spool in the slack can be quite a chore

 

Very cool. I was curious how they were going to improve on something so simple. $110 for just the pulley
Or $140 bundled with a soft shackle.
Nice to have another option.