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Removing swirl marks (car wash)

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Inverted, Jan 1, 2020.

  1. Jan 1, 2020 at 12:55 PM
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    TacoJova

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    My opinion would be to just take it to a professional detailer. I don’t wanna see you burn thru your paint thus needing a repaint from inexperience
     
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  2. Jan 1, 2020 at 1:13 PM
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    Only way you're going to burn paint is with a rotary polisher and some elbow grease; OP says he will get a DA so he should be fine.

    OP just take your time, watch a tutorial, and you will have it back to glory in no time.

    This is the video I learned from, the Junkman is a great teacher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP-eAddv2sk
     
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  3. Jan 1, 2020 at 3:13 PM
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  4. Jan 1, 2020 at 3:18 PM
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    Best to just get it paint corrected by a professional. The time and money you're going to spend is not worth it.
     
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  5. Jan 1, 2020 at 3:27 PM
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    okay, some of this is the pic. The whole door looks like it’s scratched. If you want it to look new, OP, you need a professional. If you just want to clean it up, Technically_simple nailed it.

    it’s been a bit since I have done this but I believe it’s scratchx or swirlx by mcguires that is just a touch finer than their compound. Use the compound first, then the [whatever it’s called]x followed by a good polish since you have a bit darker vehicle. Just use waxing pads, you don’t need a polisher. I used to use this on my M3 and it worked like a champ.

    if I can get to my storage unit later, I will verify the products, but I’m still recovering from MCL/ACL surgery so walking is not exactly easy ;)
     
  6. Jan 1, 2020 at 4:34 PM
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    Yea I have an appointment tomorrow with a detailer who specializes in paint correction. Decided not to mess with this since the truck is new

    cancelled my Amazon order on the DA buffer
     
  7. Jan 1, 2020 at 5:03 PM
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    If you have the money to spend, why not. A professional can get it done. But I think you could have done it yourself without damaging. Don't forget to post some after pics. Good luck.
     
  8. Jan 1, 2020 at 5:04 PM
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    Well provided it costs the same or less than the buffer, I’ll do it. Otherwise , I’ll overnight the buffer :)
     
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  9. Jan 1, 2020 at 5:14 PM
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    Just be warned that a true 2-step paint correction by a reputable detailer will be at least $600. It’s labor and time intensive.
     
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  10. Jan 1, 2020 at 5:15 PM
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    :eek:
     
  11. Jan 1, 2020 at 5:16 PM
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    My cat put some minor scratches on my hood literally the 2nd night after I bought my truck. They aren't near as bad as the car wash swirl in your pics, but for minor scratches, I picked this stuff up and it works pretty well. Sorry, but I didn't take any before or after pics.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HNHC828/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
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    If you’re the DIY type, it’s certainly something you can do on your own. It’ll take you the better part of a day if you do the whole vehicle. And like it said, it’s very labor intensive. Each section you do requires 4-6 passes and medium pressure and then double that if you decide to use a finishing polish. Plus then you’d want to lay down a sealant and then personally I put some Collinite 845 on top.

    When all is said and done you’ll probably be close to $300 in counting the polisher and supplies.

    DA polishers, unlike rotaries, lack the power to burn through a clear coat, so you need not worry about ruining your paint.
     
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    Sorry, but if anyone thinks you can remove these types of swirl marks by hand, you are sorely mistaken. That, or you have a bionic arm.
     
  14. Jan 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM
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    @Inverted I’d say do it yourself. It really isn’t hard, scratches will come no matter how careful you are washing your truck. Sometimes you just have to live with some scratches, which is what I do when polish my cars and others folks who come to me. Below This is just a 1 step polish with meguiars M205 polishing compound that removed 70% of the defects, Toyota paint on tacos and t4r etc are pretty easy to correct. If M100 doesn’t remove it I don’t even bother chasing it. Autozone or similar sells DA buffers and compound I use.

    Good luck.
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    This past summer the parking lot was being recoated/resprayed asphalt and got bad overspray (I was pissed). Found a mobile detailer that seemed decent (it’s kind of a crap shoot unless you have recommendations, I did not). They had to clay the truck to remove the over spray then did the 2step polish and sealant

    it turned out good, I’d say 98% of the overspray was removed (a few spots ocd caught) and removed all the swirl marks making it better than factory/off the lot. It cost $650 (shell included) and I wish it taught the guy a lesson but I doubt it.

    edit: if it was me paying for it then I’d probably opt to do it myself over a few weekends but since it wasn’t my fault and the company was liable I wasn’t going to spend the money or time on doing it myself.
     
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    For what it's worth, it is possible to burn through clearcoat with a DA polisher. Been there, done that....and that was after several years of using one of these polishers. You have a nice truck. At least check with a pro detailer to see what he thinks should be done and how much it will cost. You need to remember that paint (clearcoat) is going to be removed when you buff out (level) these swirls.....and Toyota paint is darn thin.
     
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    If you are a do it yourself kinda guy check these products out.
    https://www.chemicalguys.com/
    https://www.youtube.com/user/chemicalGuys A lot of tips to prevent them again, and how to use products.

    My truck is black and after I bought it (1 year later) I had it professionally paint corrected and a ceramic coating applied.
    I use the above products for all my detailing maintenance needs. Quality and a lot cheaper than paying a detailer and a little self pride maintaining it.

    Good luck!

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    You are doing the right thing by meeting with a professional.... and yes.... it’s not cheap. To do the whole truck, it cost me $650... I tipped him another $50 because it looked sooooooooooo good.... and it was worth every penny... Choke it up as a learning lesson, albeit, an expensive one... You have a brand new truck, moving forward, detail it yourself the right way, and you’ll never have to worry again!

    Here’s a few before and after videos of my Truck... and this was before the sealer and final polish... Worth every red cent!



     
  19. Jan 2, 2020 at 4:47 AM
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    Thanks guys. Appreciate all the feedback
     
  20. Jan 2, 2020 at 5:02 AM
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    Some good advice and direction already posted here.

    Ill add my 2 cents.

    Firstly don't stress. It is 100% fixable. Your truck will look like new once done.

    You can fix it yourself in 5-6 hours with a DA polisher and compound/polishing sequence. Id reccomend a porter cable 7424 as a beginner tool. Cheap and works well. For product you cant go wrong with a 3m, meguiars, sonax, chemical guys etc system. Pm me for more info if youre curious.

    To get setup do to this yourself will cost you 3-400$ max.. then you can do it 20 times at no extra cost.. the beauty of having a DA machine is that its fantastic for maintaining the paint and applying waxes/sealants.

    If you decide to take it to a pro, ask if you can poke around and learn from them just watch. Paint correction is not difficult but it is tedius and there is no way to rush it.. thats why the good guys charge what they charge.

    Best of luck
     
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