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2" or less front diff poll

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by 02Duck, Jan 1, 2020.

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How many with lifts 2" or less have had to or have put in the ECGS bushing?

  1. 2" lift or under no problem still running stock bearing

    35 vote(s)
    66.0%
  2. 2" lift or under replaced the bearing with ECGS bushing

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    34.0%
  1. Jan 1, 2020 at 5:18 PM
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    02Duck

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    Wanted to ask the question as a poll about the sometimes random issue of the front diff bearing. Really looking to see what people have experienced with a 2" or less lift.
     
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  2. Jan 1, 2020 at 5:19 PM
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    tcjacado

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    Replace it either way.
     
  3. Jan 1, 2020 at 5:21 PM
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    DevilTaco4

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    Agreed. Complete 3rd and front clamshell just ordered from ECGS (5.29s baby!) and first thing I did was make sure the bushing is in there. I’ll send my cores back with that pos needle bearing lol

    IMO, Toyota knows it’s an issue and has a TSB for it. If that isn’t enough to replace it on a lifted truck, I don’t know what is. It’s barely $50 - take care of it or deal with the vibes, howls, and at worst - destroying your front diff when the needle bearing goes bye bye
     
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  4. Jan 1, 2020 at 6:34 PM
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    Lt. Dangle

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    Just replace it. It really isn't that big of deal if you are already lifting. I replaced mine because I know me. I would be mad and lazy angry if I had to take apart my front end to do something I should have done anyways.

    In the other thread about this, it's around 50/50 on replacement.

    My second gen pro suspension gave me right at 2" of lift.
     
  5. Jan 1, 2020 at 6:35 PM
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    CZ5ANM Taco

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    A Poll for a $60 bushing?!?!?

    Either you’re mechanically inclined or not. If you’re not pay someone to do it, if you are well it’s $60.

    (You Paid or are paying off a ~$30,000 truck.)

    It’s 2020 day one - either I’m trolling or you’re being cheap. Hahah Happy This Year!
     
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  6. Jan 1, 2020 at 9:12 PM
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    Dr. Emmett Brown

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    This is an understandable poll but I don't think you're gunna get what you're looking for.
    Seems like lots of people put the bushing before having symptoms so they won't know if their bushing would've failed or not
     
  7. Jan 1, 2020 at 9:20 PM
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    tcjacado

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    The reason being, why pay for 2 times the labor. If you are diy then it's just time taking it all apart again.
     
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    Dr. Emmett Brown

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    Exactly. I think OP wants to know if he/she should do it, based on the odds of it failing after the lift.
     
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    About 60 percent fail after 1 inch or more of lift. That's a ball park from my readings. 30 percent I would say last a few months to a year after a lift.
     
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  10. Jan 1, 2020 at 9:28 PM
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    Dr. Emmett Brown

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    So that means 90% fail, period which doesn't make sense because I've never heard of people here in Hawaii changing this bearing out or anyone having problems. I changed mine out to rule out a noise I was hearing and it turned out my bearing was fine after a year of driving on the 2.5" lift. Still have my bearing in my back seat cubbyhole too lol
     
  11. Jan 1, 2020 at 9:34 PM
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    As I said, just a given estimate from my readings. Definitely not accurate. Most don't even take the gamble just like you.
     
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    I got 2 inch lift 1 inch diff drop 48,000 miles still running the stock bushing the truck left the factory with no issues to date.
     
  13. Jan 2, 2020 at 12:35 AM
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    Not for me I lifted, and then felt the vibes afterward. Had to re do all that work on the driver side to pull the axle and change the bearing. Also had to get another wheel alignment. I didn't notice the bad vibes right away. Noticed it weeks after installing lift.
     
  14. Jan 2, 2020 at 1:47 AM
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    I did it as prevented maintenance, because I knew sure as hell I would get a vibration. Luckily I didn't get any.
     
  15. Jan 2, 2020 at 7:32 AM
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    That's why I wrote "lots" not "all". I didn't have vibrations after lifting 2.5" either.
     
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  16. Jan 2, 2020 at 7:58 AM
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    This is why i thought i poll would be interesting. It's not perfect but should be better than the alternative. I'm leaning towards changing it but this isn't just for me. It be nice to have feedback from people with actually experience counted up not just reading one thread here and there and then assuming.

    Thanks to everyone for answering.
     
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  17. Jan 2, 2020 at 8:12 AM
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    I don't think a lot of people change it as preventative measure. Especially when counting all Tacoma owners out there that are lifted and don't even frequent this website. Most people don't know what this bushing is or does.
     
  18. Jan 2, 2020 at 8:20 AM
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    Dr. Emmett Brown

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    Mother of God. Let me rephrase this.

    This poll has nothing to do with the other people that know nothing about anything. This poll is for the users of tacomaworld who under my observation a lot of the time preventatively change out the bearing before any symptoms occur. Therefore not knowing if the bearing would have failed to begin with. I am one of those people as are lots of others.
    There is another thread that has exactly the same poll as this.
     
  19. Jan 2, 2020 at 8:24 AM
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    No vibes here, stock needle bearing.

    Fox 2.5 at slightly over 2" from stock.

    265s.
     
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