Hitch swing w dirt bike carrier/yz250 ?

Rack? I missed that part - lol.

I could swear my '99 YZ was close to 215 lbs but my memory probably has failed me.

It is rated for 250 lbs, not 227, nor 228, nor 215 - it's 250 lbs. That means it will handle 250 lbs with absolutely no adverse affects, that's what weight ratings are for. 251 lbs ain't gonna break it, it's just not rated for it. Just like payload capacities and towing capacities the manufacturers aren't going to place weight ratings 1 pound under the breaking point as it just doesn't work that way but I guarantee it'll never break at or below the maximum weight rating - that's their whole freakin point!

 

100% agree. Looks like I’ll be getting it for just the mountain bike and continue to run the straight carrier until I pony up and buy a trailer.
Thanks for all the input !

 

What specific parts break on a new Tacoma when towing 6500 lbs? Exactly.

 

The roof, when you're upside down in the ditch.

Do you really think a 1000watt Cheng Shung amp will put out 1000 watts?

Do you think the QVC battery pack that plugs into the cigarette lighter socket, will jump start your truck?

Do you believe the weatherman?

Hang on, I just got a phone call. They've been trying to reach me about my car's extended warranty. I've gotta go.

 

That escalated quickly

 

If you trust everything (welds, hitch, mount, etc.) working correctly, no matter how many bumps you'll roll over, placing much more stress than just the bike, then you should go for it! Hit one big bump, and that Yamaha could easily put 500+ lbs. of stress on the mount.

Personally I wouldn't do it.

 

I wouldnt use it either. I value my bikes enough it wouldnt be worth the chance. Also keep in mind that lining up latches can be a pain with weight on the carrier.

Heres a thread i started:

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/moto-hauling-options-trailers-hitch-haulers-bed-loading.622109/

I personally just got a new carrier (rack-n-ride). I can lower the tailgate fully but not with the bike on it. Could lower it enough to get access though with the bike on

 

Wouldn't it be cool to have a telescoping tube with a pneumatic ram inside? Pssssht. ---------> bike moves out. Pssssht. <---------- bike moves back in.

 

As I expected, you didn't answer a direct question. You made a statement and then couldn't back it up with anything but sarcasm and condescending writing.

It's cool though, my feelings ain't hurt in the slightest. Have a fantastic evening.

 

You’re basing your opinions on your belief that all manufacturers base their working load limit on a safety factor of ~5 utilizing the minimum breaking strength as a starting point. In reality, most ratings are probably based on limited testing in short term ideal conditions, in order to impress the buyer enough for them to make a sale. There is no way the manufacturer of that $159 welded, powdercoated, free shipped, swingout can predict all of the ways a user could abuse that thing. The location of the 250lbs, the leverage applied, and the long term effects of constant flexing will play a big part in the success or catastrophic failure. I guarantee you that if you load that thing with 250lbs at a leverage length of 3’ and drive the AlCan Highway, it will fail catastrophically.

 

It's cute that you believe that, but dangerous for everyone else on the road.

How much do you think is actually going to be on that rack between the wet weight of the bike, the rack that's needed to carry it and small things like extra pins and extra lights if the truck's tail lights are obstructed. How was that 250# limit derived and what safety factor did they use, if any? Is that weight measured directly over the hitch when it's closed? As you add items sticking out further you're adding leverage to the hinge mechanism (which doesn't look like a tapered bearing from what I can see but rather a simple bolt, possibly with some sort of bushings?). Is that a static load rating? As you bounce down the road you are temporarily increasing forces on the carrier. Seriously, you trust Chinese welding on unknown Chinese metal? CNC welders are relatively inexpensive these days and most inexpensive Chinese products are still welded by hand- and it shows

Not the same situation, but similar results- notice the part at 8:30. He's adding parts, increasing leverage and increasing failure points.

 

Cool. More opinions, feelings, and hunches with absolutely zero facts. Still the only fact in this thread that was presented by others is that it is rated for 250 lbs. Whatever, have a ball.

 

Some actual factual information. It appears that the most likely weakest link in this swing out is the latch for the swing out.

The hitch pin that's visible is 5/8" thick. That puts the latch somewhere around 5/16" thick (x2). The latches striker looks to be about 1/4" (x2).

The maximum weight on the swing out is 250 pounds. The most likely scenario of that latch breaking is when forces are applied directly to the striker. That 1/4" thick striker is doubled up and is probably mild steel and not hardened. That puts the striker's shear strength somewhere around 5800 pounds. A 250 pound load on that swing out that is attached to a vehicle traveling at 65 mph is around 5100 pounds of force.

There are many other factors that come into play. Factors like gravity will further reduce the stress placed on that striker. Check out Newton's Laws. There simply isn't enough information to create concrete proof that it will or will not break at its rated capacity.

But without factual statistical information anything else is just opinion and is based on absolutely no facts.

My opinion is based on the manufacturers capacity rating because that's what capacity ratings are specifically for. Idk why there seems to be confusion on that extremely simple to understand fact.

One thing is for sure, some opinions on TW are far weaker than that swing out's striker. Lmao

 

A far cry from 5800lbs.

Just because it's rated at 700 lbs, that doesn't take into consideration leverage, shock loads, and side loads. Now, there's also a hitch pin holding the swingout from swinging out, but it's still of my opinion that the steel structure could possibly fail long before the latch and hitch pin, and it's simply not worth it to gamble a $2K+ bike on a $159 swing out.

How's that for factual information?

Oh, and in case you dig up the 2000 lb rating for this clamps bigger brother, the bigger brother has a mounting plate that is 2 1/2" tall. It's obvious from the pic of the clamp on the 2" tubing that they are not using the big brother clamp.

 

That clamp isn't near strong enough, not even close. Yes it's great factual information, unlike the swing out.

20 G's and 620hp on 91 octane, a friend had one in his jet boat. I built a 468 675 hp for much less but it definitely wasn't a pump gas motor. BBC is my favorite.