1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Confusing stumbing no power misfire problem

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by slammingsalmon, Apr 1, 2019.

  1. Apr 1, 2019 at 12:37 PM
    #1
    slammingsalmon

    slammingsalmon [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2019
    Member:
    #288720
    Messages:
    11
    Vehicle:
    1998 Tacoma 2.7 Trd
    Hey guys,
    I've got a 1998 4x4 2.7l 180k Tacoma (no distributor) that I haven't been able to get running for a year. Last year it started loosing power and dying, no codes. Before i figured out it had burnt valves, I replaced the maf, IAC, spark plugs and wires, EGR, O2 sensors. After figured outoi had burnt valves (neglected to get valves shimmed) I swapped the head, did a good job on it, and it still wasn't running right, recently I got back to it and found that the cam sensor and maf (yes the one I replaced) tested bad. I replaced those and it was running pretty good, I test drove it and it was doing fine, but on idle it was a little shaky and started giving me the flashing misfire light. I read the codes and got, random misfire, as well as 2 and 4, and p0130 (O2 sensor) and p0133 (O2 sensor slow response) I replaced the O2 sensor and then full of hope test droved it, and it did good for a bit then totally craped out, and I had to drive it home backfiring and maxing out at 15mph. Now it has p0172, system too rich. I also tested the fuel pressure, and it seemed within spec, I don't know if the fuel pressure drops on accel or something, and replaced the regulator, filter and fuel injectors. Should have sold this truck as a mechanic special long ago but now I'm too deep. What the heck do you guys think is going on with it? Knock sensor? Crank sensor tested good. I don't think I have a vacuum leak. I've check, replaced some hoses. Also replaced the air filter and cleaned the throttle body.
     
  2. Apr 1, 2019 at 12:41 PM
    #2
    tcjacado

    tcjacado Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Member:
    #195947
    Messages:
    41,570
    Could be bad catalytic converters.
     
    OneWheelPeel and BassAckwards like this.
  3. Apr 1, 2019 at 12:48 PM
    #3
    slammingsalmon

    slammingsalmon [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2019
    Member:
    #288720
    Messages:
    11
    Vehicle:
    1998 Tacoma 2.7 Trd
    I only have 1 and I replaced it.
     
  4. Apr 1, 2019 at 12:50 PM
    #4
    tcjacado

    tcjacado Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Member:
    #195947
    Messages:
    41,570
  5. Apr 1, 2019 at 12:58 PM
    #5
    Bebop

    Bebop Old fashion cowboy

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2016
    Member:
    #177835
    Messages:
    4,407
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    Castle rock Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2012 Toyota Tacoma baja
    6inch lift sitting on bilstein coilovers. Lexus is300 studs in front to keep stock wheels, general grabber red letters, nfab front bumper.
    Compression test? Leakdown? You losing coolant? Check your valve clearances? What brand o2 sensors you using? Toyota’s are picky at certain brands of O2 sensors
     
    tcjacado likes this.
  6. Apr 1, 2019 at 1:01 PM
    #6
    slammingsalmon

    slammingsalmon [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2019
    Member:
    #288720
    Messages:
    11
    Vehicle:
    1998 Tacoma 2.7 Trd
    I did a compression test and all was good. I am not noticeably loosing coolant although I do get a pic of white after not starting it for a day, not sure if that's vapor or coolant, the white stops pretty quick. I am using Bosch O2s. Just had the shop rebuild the head I have not double checked their work.
     
  7. Apr 1, 2019 at 1:01 PM
    #7
    eon_blue

    eon_blue If I would, could you

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2016
    Member:
    #180213
    Messages:
    69,971
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Azusa, CA
    Vehicle:
    '04 TRD 3.4l 4x4 5sp manual Xtraca & '96 4runner 4x4 5spd manual
    Put Denso sensors in it for the O2s and MAF, Toyotas don't mix well with any other brand sensor
     
    tcjacado likes this.
  8. Apr 1, 2019 at 1:02 PM
    #8
    slammingsalmon

    slammingsalmon [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2019
    Member:
    #288720
    Messages:
    11
    Vehicle:
    1998 Tacoma 2.7 Trd
    *puff of white
     
  9. Apr 1, 2019 at 1:03 PM
    #9
    slammingsalmon

    slammingsalmon [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2019
    Member:
    #288720
    Messages:
    11
    Vehicle:
    1998 Tacoma 2.7 Trd
    The exhaust pipe is really black and so are the spark plugs Mabey new plugs... Again?
     
  10. Apr 1, 2019 at 1:06 PM
    #10
    slammingsalmon

    slammingsalmon [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2019
    Member:
    #288720
    Messages:
    11
    Vehicle:
    1998 Tacoma 2.7 Trd
    Have not done leakdown test.
     
  11. Apr 1, 2019 at 1:10 PM
    #11
    eon_blue

    eon_blue If I would, could you

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2016
    Member:
    #180213
    Messages:
    69,971
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Azusa, CA
    Vehicle:
    '04 TRD 3.4l 4x4 5sp manual Xtraca & '96 4runner 4x4 5spd manual
    Toyotas are tested and built on the Denso sensor's exact specs, which is why you see a lot of threads on here from people that use Bosch sensors and run into problems. I would definitely look into swapping those Bosch sensors out.
     
  12. Apr 1, 2019 at 1:12 PM
    #12
    slammingsalmon

    slammingsalmon [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2019
    Member:
    #288720
    Messages:
    11
    Vehicle:
    1998 Tacoma 2.7 Trd
    Ok good to know I'll look into replacing those.
     
  13. Apr 1, 2019 at 1:50 PM
    #13
    mechanicjon

    mechanicjon They call me "Jonny Stubs"

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Member:
    #203828
    Messages:
    10,151
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jon
    Scottsdale Arizona
    Vehicle:
    04 Taco SC 4dr SR5 TRD Prerunner
    Supercharged, AEM FIC/6, Meth Inj, ION Alloy's, Radio & Phone steering Wheel controls,Fabtech AAL, Billie's wrapped with 880's , Tundra big brake conversion, bully bars and Pioneer DDin Stereo/dvd with exterrnal usb ports. 290K and going strong.
    Check your egr system. Make sure the egr is closing all the way. What was the compression numbers?
     
  14. Apr 1, 2019 at 1:53 PM
    #14
    mechanicjon

    mechanicjon They call me "Jonny Stubs"

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Member:
    #203828
    Messages:
    10,151
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jon
    Scottsdale Arizona
    Vehicle:
    04 Taco SC 4dr SR5 TRD Prerunner
    Supercharged, AEM FIC/6, Meth Inj, ION Alloy's, Radio & Phone steering Wheel controls,Fabtech AAL, Billie's wrapped with 880's , Tundra big brake conversion, bully bars and Pioneer DDin Stereo/dvd with exterrnal usb ports. 290K and going strong.
    April fools day guys!
    OP joined today
     
  15. Apr 1, 2019 at 2:05 PM
    #15
    tcjacado

    tcjacado Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Member:
    #195947
    Messages:
    41,570
    :(:bananadead:
     
    Bebop likes this.
  16. Feb 8, 2020 at 6:38 PM
    #16
    slammingsalmon

    slammingsalmon [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2019
    Member:
    #288720
    Messages:
    11
    Vehicle:
    1998 Tacoma 2.7 Trd
    Ok so here's the update. It turned out I had burnt valves. Replaced the head. Truck is better now, but still wacky. Now it getting up to speed great, and no more smoke, ect. The compression is good. So now when I am up to speed, the truck will intermittently, (every 2-3 minutes) start loosing power and if I floor it, it gets power back and I can pull back on the throttle. I will have to fight with the truck like this over and over for 2 - 3 minutes, after which it comes back to playing nice mode. This repeats. No problems under 50 mph. The tach and speedometer also flip out in unison then come back to working ever one in a while (every 30 minutes). What now?

    is my fuel pump going out? Im at 180K.

    I tested my cam and crank sensor, but I guess the problem is intermittent.

    I bought one coil and changed it around to see if that would help (therer are two)

    I have new fuel injectors and fuel pump regulator.

    I have new maf

    I have no codes

    At one point I had a no start breakdown from corroded battery ground. I cleaned it but I didnt clean the other grounds. Some seem crusty.

    I have Durlast plug wires with I think NGK plugs, and probably bosch O2 sensors still I think.

    I dont know if I messed up my cat with all the previous misfires.

    Just fixed all the exhaust leaks.

    What do you guys think?
     
  17. Feb 8, 2020 at 6:40 PM
    #17
    slammingsalmon

    slammingsalmon [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2019
    Member:
    #288720
    Messages:
    11
    Vehicle:
    1998 Tacoma 2.7 Trd
    Oh lol I posted this after the new head. I forgot and went over it again...
     
  18. Feb 8, 2020 at 8:02 PM
    #18
    slammingsalmon

    slammingsalmon [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2019
    Member:
    #288720
    Messages:
    11
    Vehicle:
    1998 Tacoma 2.7 Trd
    Also I had 3/4 tank of 2 year old fuel in it. Topped it up with fresh and added gumout. Could it just be the bad gas?? I guess Ill find out.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top