Rented a Colorado.

Let me know when those other hunks of crap go 20years and 500k miles.

 

Or I might just do a rear disc upgrade...because why not.

 

Tundra booster to Tacoma brake pedal yoke measurements. The booster's actuating rod has 10x1.25mm threads.

 

I will have to save that pic. Then see about making it on the mill...

 

Reliability and politics is what keeps me away from GM.

 

Because it's expensive AF and absolutely positively not necessary.

 

the headlights would keep me from buying this thing. they really are that bad.

 

My neighbor has a black double cab lifted Colorado. I think it's a good looking pile of shi....

 

All those complaining of squishy brakes, you should try better brake lines like the one's Wheelers sells. I swapped those in when I put my lift in and bout put my face through the windshield at the first stop sign I encountered. Much improved, and I'm sure the install bleed helped too.

 

I almost bought a diesel Colorado LB instead of my new Tacoma. Mostly for MPG, ride and torque. I did like it quite a bit. Ultimately decided the diesel regen cycle wouldn’t work for me. Then familiarity, reliability, resale value and backcountry capability won out and I bought my 3rd small Toyota pickup.

 

^this

dont worry about the the rears being drums. vast majority of your breaking power comes from the fronts

 

I have had them on both my street cars and track cars. The fresh bleed did more than the brake lines on a street driven car. UNLESS....you have a line that was somehow compromised. But if that is the case you have a totally different problem.

 

2020 TRD Off Road here, my brakes feel rock hard. Absolutely no complaints about pedal feel. The brakes are a bit grabby and not as linear as other vehicles but that seems to be the case with a lot of current vehicles.

 

Drums on the back are fine. It's a better engineering decision for the purpose of the vehicle. If you want rear discs, you have either a different purpose or bought the wrong vehicle.

 

SOS performance makes a kit. Might as well do the 6 piston big brake kit and you will never have any truck out brake you again

 

Meh.. the diesel 4 cylinder could be cool but the chassis is not going to feel like my Tacoma does on a potholed logging road.

There's just something about the feel of the suspension on the front of these trucks. Nothing else comes close

 

Drum brakes or not the Tacoma seems pretty competitive.

 

This. I've never seen a comparison test of the Tacoma vs Colorado where the Tacoma wins; and it's never even close. Colorado gets raves about how it drives, Tacoma gets slammed because the transmission never knows what gear to be in. Again and again. And FWIW, I'm happy with how a Tacoma drives, but per the reviews somehow the Colorado has reinvented the small truck driving experience in comparison. It's a shame that the Ranger has turned out to be a disappointment as I was hoping it'd be a smaller F150 as far as the reviews. IMO Toyota has been living on their past rep with this truck. Mine has been a POS: new 5 speed manual transmission, water pump, and wheel bearings in less than 110K miles; yeah, that's quality. I realize the Colorado may be worse quality, and GM historically suffers with reliability, but regular failure of Tacoma front wheel bearings at ~100k miles is unacceptable quality to me. But Toyota is fine with this. When it's time for a new truck, I will test drive everything. And by then the verdict will be in on the reliability of the competition. I would definitely buy another Tacoma, but now there is more competition

And my 2009 does have the soft brake pedal. Manually bleeding the brakes did help it, but it's still there. I doesn't bother me.

 

i had a chance to spend some real wheel time in the Colorado this weekend...and I get what the reviews are after. It just drives great. The more you are behind the wheel the more you appreciate things like the tight turning radius and the suspension that feels like it could be on a sports car. I don't know that it would be great on an off road trail...but for the 99% of what people are going to use this for it works well. The seats aren't any better than the tacoma and the interior is typical GM, which is to say hard plastic with lots of odd shapes. It really is a hard dash to look at.

Agreed on the Ranger. I wanted to like it as my family has owned a couple...but the new one is just oddly proportioned and the back seat is horrific. Also...the ride was oddly bouncy and actually made my wife feel queasy in the back seat during our highway stint. That has never happened before.

I know I wont have a lot of agreement here but the big thing Toyota has going for it over GM and Ford is Dealer/Manufacturer support. Toyota is replacing frames at a pretty steady clip. Ford told people that bought cars with the Powershift transmissions to get bent. GM accepting that massive payout and what they have done afterwards....no thanks.

 

In my opinion, these "comparison" articles are only looking at the short term value of the tech/convenience upgrades. The real comparison will be in 10-15 yrs when we see which trucks are still worth putting money into.

When i get say a 2002 GMC Sonoma with 150k in the shop, it'll be worth 1,500 on KBB and the customer is really hesitant to spend anything on it.

400 dollars on some front brakes? "Umm.. maybe its time for me to look for a new truck"

On the other hand, a 2002 4x4 tacoma with 250k on it.. Maybe it needs clutch work and a radiator for around 1,800 bucks? The customer is saying fix it before i even finish my sentence..

Im going to stick with the truck that i know will hold its value over time. Toyota is way out in front ..