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Fox Life!!! Anything Related to Fox Suspension

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by ThaiChillyTaco, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Mar 10, 2020 at 1:42 PM
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    The shock length is currently sitting at 21”.
     
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    Well again, we don't recommend going taller. It is possible, but you will start topping out the shock very quickly if you plan to go offroad. When we do installed we set most of the 0-3" coilovers to about 2.5" of lift.
     
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    Not sure about extended travel - I would have to guess that they are not. They’re the Fox 2.0 Performance Series IFP shocks (#985-02-002). I just got off the phone with Off-road Sales at Fox and the rep assured me that the 2.0’s come factory with preload adjusted to 2” (he even sent me a fancy schematic). I will try taking some more accurate measurements/comparing those with the diagram to see what went wrong. You won’t hear this often on the forums but *cough* I should have stuck with spacers *cough*
     
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    Adding a longer spring will not get you more lift height. If you look at the diagram above, spring length will not change the overall shock length, you would just have less threads showing. 21" and 20.5" is what we would set them to for the best performance. Like mentioned earlier, you can certainly add more preload to get more lift height but may sacrifice some ride quality.
     
  9. Mar 10, 2020 at 3:03 PM
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    If they aren't ext travel just put a small spacer on top of them, I had a .25" spacer, .50" may be possible, on top of my toytecs, I was right @ 3" on my 2nd gen
     
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    :eek: Can I interest you in a short film we like to call "Why are Tacoma Spacer Lifts so bad?" :D

    The 2.0 IFP coilover is NOT an extended length coilover.
     
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    Good evening everyone. I have a few questions regarding my recently installed lift. I am massively confused. And, curious what you guys think is going on here. I installed FOX 2.5 C/O 0"-3" Lift and got literally NO LIFT!!! I am 21" (being generous) center hub to Fender. Same as before. All stock up front weight wise. Here are all the measurements (post lift) and a Pic of C/V axle angle. (or lack there of)

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    Front
    FOX 2.5 C/O 0"-2.5" Lift (Part: 883-02-025)
    JBA UCA's
    27 Threads (1.9") showing on preload ring.
    21" Center Hub to Fender
    25-3/4" CHF @ Full Droop
    Almost no angle on C/V axles
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    3" Deaver AAL's w/ Stock Overload Removed
    3° Axle Shim
    Fox 2.0 w/RR 0"-3" Lift
    24" Center Hub to Fender

    I haven't touched the preload rings due to the fact that it's said to be so against recommendation. What I'm having such a hard time with is,.... I am bone stock up front! No added weight. And, these shocks "Set for 2"of lift from FOX" can't hold the weight of my stock front end. I have 5" of Droop. What the...?
    Anybody seen this? Any comments? I am baffled.
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    Check out that rake! 3" difference!
     
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    @EatableTaco , you'll want your shock length @ 21" per Accutune at ride height, I like to run just a touch more but not much
     
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    I printed this and filled out th info on AccuTune's write up. Along with the info from previous post.
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    It seems to me that these springs are possibly even less than 600lb springs. I mean, I am bone stock. I realize after reading so much on these, a lot people are less than thrilled with the outcome. I knew I wouldn't get 3" before I bought them. (no big deal) but, I actually lost 1/4" to be perfectly exact. I cannot even push the front of the truck down. My UCA's are level, if not on an upward plane. Something has to be wrong with these springs. I mean, all of my angles on the front suspension and drivetrain are still at factory spec as well. Something is seriously a miss. Anybody think that I have faulty/incorrectly built equipment? I realize every truck is different as far as gains. But, zero? With factory front end?
     
  15. Mar 12, 2020 at 9:57 AM
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    I agree that something is amiss.

    The part number for the spring itself is usually visible. That should confirm the length and spring rate.
     
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    Ok, this is a prime example of why every coilover needs to be adjusted once installed and reviewed. The coilovers DO NOT come with the exact lift you need, thankfully they are adjustable. In order to get the lift you want out of this coilover, you will need to add preload. Adjust preload as necessary to get what ever lift height you want, however we do not recommend the shock length (see diagram) to be more than 21". So from the measurements you provided, you can go up quite a bit. With a motion ratio, adjusting preload about an inch, could easily net you 2" of lift. The spring length and rate is fine.
     
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    Thank you, for your reply. I understand fine tuning. It just freaked me out that I got really, a negative lift. And, everything is set perfectly where most people are gaining an average of 1-3/4 - 2-1/4 I didn't want to adjust preload because it will be so far out of FOX and everyone else's recommended specs. It just seems crazy to have not gotten any lift. Like the spring rate is incorrect or something. You know? Now, 1 question before I make the adjustment. I know it's recommended to remove the coilover. Can it be safely done, installed, at full droop? These have the single preload collar. I hold no one liable for whatever answer given. I just want to know... Are there people successfully doing it this way? I have not seen any stories of a train wreck happening by doing so. Just curious.

    Also, the spring part number, here... (Is this Correct?) 039-26-004-A 0419
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    -Right, every truck is different and its really not accurate to compare your measurements to others. You cannot expect the same results from another persons vehicle, just use as a reference. We only use measurements off the coilover also, not fender/hub etc.
    -Yes, you can lift the truck and remove weight from the coilovers to adjust the preload. We recommend removing them, using a proper spring compressor to adjust them.
    -Those springs are 13x600 springs, and should be perfect for what you're doing.
     
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    Fantastic news. I just couldn't believe I was that far out. To me... That was past "fine tuning" using other's experiences as a rough estimate. I thank you for your support. Off to make some adjustments!
     
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    Right on! Happy to help
     
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