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Rugged Terrain tires

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by sgmstr, Mar 14, 2020.

  1. Mar 14, 2020 at 1:26 PM
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    JoeCOVA

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    The type of terrain you are driving. An all-stock DD, it's more logical to run a highway tire or an all-season. Weekend camping and creek crossing is most likely just some rutted out dirt roads that an AT is more than enough to handle.

    Just buy a quality AT and it will handle everything you need. I run dedicated MT's for difficult trails but nothing you will be putting your truck through, for everything else I run an AT.

    I personally recommend General Grabber ATX, because they are 3-peak rated, come with a 60,000 mile warranty and have respectable on/off road manners.

    A more aggressive tread looks cool and will offer better offroad manners but if you aren't spending most of your time offroad you are just wasting them.
     
  2. Mar 14, 2020 at 1:29 PM
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    I’ve heard really good things from local tire shops about the GG ATX.
     
  3. Mar 14, 2020 at 1:44 PM
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    sgmstr

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    cool. Thanks for that and some good example.
     
  4. Mar 14, 2020 at 1:46 PM
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    Which RT is lighter than the ko2. Havent seen one. Mind sharing?
     
  5. Mar 14, 2020 at 1:47 PM
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    Don't worry so much about the weight. Aggressive tread, wide tires, and taller tires are what kill fuel mileage. Those tires tend to be heavier, but if you stay reasonable the weight isn't what hurts. I have these on my Tacoma in an E rated 265/75/16. They are 15 lbs each heavier than the factory tires. My fuel mileage is exactly the same because the tread is fairly mild, they are the same width as factory and they are only 1" taller.

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Scorpion+ATR

    You are going to get advice for just about every tire made. I've had good luck with Cooper in the past and for the money are a good choice. And they make them in both LT265/75/16 and P265/75/16. You don't need the LT's for loads in a Tacoma, but they are a tougher tire. I've damaged too many P rated tires driving on gravel forest service roads and will no longer use a P series tire. It comes out cheaper in the long run to not have to replace tires.

    You'll get a lot of suggestions for Falken Wildpeak.

    Pirelli is phasing out the tire I currently have on my Tacoma and it is only available in a handful of sizes currently. But I have it's replacement on my F150 and like it even better. It is a more aggressive tire, plus I went up in size to a 2" taller tire. That cost me just under 1 mpg.

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Scorpion+All+Terrain+Plus

    It is pretty reasonable if you want to stay with a P series tire.

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...dewall=Blackwall&partnum=675TR6SATP&tab=Sizes

    Even the LT's aren't bad.

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...dewall=Blackwall&partnum=675SR6SATP&tab=Sizes
     
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    I also think you should consider an AT. My truck is on woods/logging roads 60-70% of the time due to my job, and I have only experienced conditions AT tires would have a hard time handling maybe once or twice. I’m currently running ST Maxx’s and have mixed feelings about them. Great off-road but I have never been able to get them balanced, and they pull to the right. My buddy has RTs on his 2wd 1st gen and goes anywhere I can in 4wd. He loves them. Nitto Ridge Grapplers and Toyo RTs are similar, but the Nitto’s have softer rubber compared to the RTs.
     
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    This is helpful and thanks. As I mentioned in my original post, my concern is not about the lower MPG. (you gotta pay to play right?) My concern has to do with sluggish acceleration/longer braking that may come with having heavier tires and want to hear from you guys in order to weigh benefits/loss.

    As I know OE tires are around 40ish pounds so are most ATs (except for heavier loads). I understand what I do with my truck doesn't really need MTs, but I would like the thicker sidewall and deeper tread to give me peace of mind when I drive on a trail that may call for MTs. So I thought RTs would be perfect for me as most are lighter than MTs and have deeper treads than ATs.

    With this said, I should have also asked for the AT tires under 50 lbs that have deeper treads. Is the answer KO2s?

    I wish I can get both AT and MT and switch back and forth, but I frankly have no space to store them. One day........
     
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    My question to you folks with MTs or RTs with 55+lbs.... Do you feel sluggish and braking impacted?
     
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    My 265/75/r16 ST Maxx’s (same category as Toyo RT’s) supposedly weigh 54 lbs. I mainly noticed a difference in 5th-6th gear when I’m up to speed or when I’m going over steep hill/mountain road. Not sluggish, but there’s a difference.
     
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    All tire info is included on the manufactures website. Take a look. Don’t just rely on everything you read here. There’s plenty of very good info and there’s plenty of bad and self opinionated info on TW.
    If you look at the same size of tire between the two, BFG are always lighter, except for the P rated RGs. KO2s don’t come in a P rating
     
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    D38E3884-2CCD-44E0-8973-95F214710B8E.jpg I had K02 before on a 2nd Gen. they were 265/70r17 and were 54lbs. Decided on these R/T for a change: 265/70r17 and 56lbs..
    Will have them on in the next few days..
     
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    Great.. let me know how it rides/acceleration/braking.
     
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    also been thinking about getting lighter wheels (like SCS F5) to offset some weight on heavier RT tires.
     
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    No one much runs maxxis these days but they are solid. Good on and off. Tough tire in C load.
     
  16. Mar 14, 2020 at 6:50 PM
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    - ICON UCAs, BP51/Kings, SCS wheels, 285s, Leer 100XR canopy. Greenlane aluminum winch bumper, Smittybilt X20 winch. Trying Falken AT3w now, Really like BF KO2s.
    you could go Goodyear Duratrac in that size for 45lbs.
     
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    Im gonna agree with @JoeCOVA , get ATs from a reputable brand. For the size you’re looking for I would recommend the Falken Wilkpeak AT3W P-rated. I love them in the sand! They weigh not much more than stock. They have great traction everywhere except that gooey tar mud, then again Ive never seen a vehicle, not even 4 wheelers, make it through the mud Im talking about. Ive put about 40k on my set and they’re still going strong. I hit the curb atleast 1 a day and run over broken glass every now and then and they still sturdy.
     
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    im looking at going up to 33's with the new toyo open country AT3's, they just came out but i like their aggressive look. and AT2's have had a good reputation. That or toyo MT's, i cant justify MT's but ill be turning necks at the mall. Ive had 265 RG's for a while now just thinking of getting something new. RT's are nice but i think for me is AT's or just go big, in my opinion.
     
  19. Mar 15, 2020 at 3:59 AM
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    my local tire guy, stated the toyo at3's are directional... meaning, rotations will be tough, and if they remotely start wearing funny, you wont be able to do much about it. your results may vary. Ski
     
  20. Mar 15, 2020 at 4:51 AM
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    No. Rides better on highway.
     

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