1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Prerunner to 4x4 crossmember

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Brian422, May 4, 2020.

  1. May 4, 2020 at 1:17 PM
    #1
    Brian422

    Brian422 [OP] I fell into the pit that is TW

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Member:
    #57958
    Messages:
    15,483
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Birmingham, AL
    Vehicle:
    2012 DBCSB F/R Locked, 35's ,Long travel, 23 Tundra 4x4 limited
    Not Stock
    Hi Guys,

    So i am doing a 4x4 conversion on my 2012 2.7 dcsb. Ive got alot of the parts already but have a question about the crosmember section. Ive read evrywhere about people modifiying their prerunner crosmembers to accept the 4wd trans. Does anyone know if its possible to just pull a crossmember from a wrecked truck and direct swap it? I havent seen anyone do it so that why im skeptical.

    Also is the 2.7 transmount the same bolt pattern as the v6 transmount? A750F vs A340F

    Any help would be appreciated.

    [​IMG]
     
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
    #1
  2. May 4, 2020 at 1:22 PM
    #2
    Brian422

    Brian422 [OP] I fell into the pit that is TW

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Member:
    #57958
    Messages:
    15,483
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Birmingham, AL
    Vehicle:
    2012 DBCSB F/R Locked, 35's ,Long travel, 23 Tundra 4x4 limited
    Not Stock
    I guess i could always get @BamaTaco56 to make me a modified one :D
     
  3. May 4, 2020 at 1:26 PM
    #3
    will.i.was

    will.i.was Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Member:
    #252688
    Messages:
    1,680
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Will
    Houston, Texas
    Vehicle:
    SC 2.5
    If you can find a wrecked vehicle one it would work. It is pretty difficult to find just the 4x4 crossmember which is why most people just fab one up with some tube steel. The 4x4 will be 1 inch lower and 1 inch forward. Be sure to field verify the measurements.

    20180509_131813.jpg
     
    Brian422[OP] likes this.
  4. May 4, 2020 at 1:29 PM
    #4
    Brian422

    Brian422 [OP] I fell into the pit that is TW

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Member:
    #57958
    Messages:
    15,483
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Birmingham, AL
    Vehicle:
    2012 DBCSB F/R Locked, 35's ,Long travel, 23 Tundra 4x4 limited
    Not Stock
    Well ive found just that lol which is why im curious haha

    Thank you for the information!
     
  5. May 4, 2020 at 1:29 PM
    #5
    jowybyo

    jowybyo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Member:
    #116863
    Messages:
    6,092
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    Baltimore, MD
    Vehicle:
    '14 MGM DCSB Postrunner 4wd Conversion, Debadged
    No, it wont work. The mounts that are welded to the frame are lower on the 4x4 trucks. Part of modding the crossmember is lowering the center section to compensate for this.

    Edit: I believe the brackets on the frame are 1-1/16" higher on the Prerunner than on the 4WD frames. Doesn't make a lot of sense. The cross members are the same but the frame is different. Kinda silly.
     
    FishingInSand and will.i.was like this.
  6. May 4, 2020 at 1:31 PM
    #6
    jowybyo

    jowybyo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Member:
    #116863
    Messages:
    6,092
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    Baltimore, MD
    Vehicle:
    '14 MGM DCSB Postrunner 4wd Conversion, Debadged
    Except, he isn't right. You'll need to create a custom cross member either way.
     
  7. May 4, 2020 at 1:35 PM
    #7
    Brian422

    Brian422 [OP] I fell into the pit that is TW

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Member:
    #57958
    Messages:
    15,483
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Birmingham, AL
    Vehicle:
    2012 DBCSB F/R Locked, 35's ,Long travel, 23 Tundra 4x4 limited
    Not Stock
    Hmm so where it attaches to the frame is lower one inch right? Not the portion that is removalble but the bolts. That is on a stock 4x4 not the modified one.
     
  8. May 4, 2020 at 1:37 PM
    #8
    Brian422

    Brian422 [OP] I fell into the pit that is TW

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Member:
    #57958
    Messages:
    15,483
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Birmingham, AL
    Vehicle:
    2012 DBCSB F/R Locked, 35's ,Long travel, 23 Tundra 4x4 limited
    Not Stock
    Also if that was the case then why would toyota have a removalbe section of the crossmember if the frame sections that were welded were diffrent? I guess to service the trans?
     
  9. May 4, 2020 at 1:45 PM
    #9
    jowybyo

    jowybyo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Member:
    #116863
    Messages:
    6,092
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    Baltimore, MD
    Vehicle:
    '14 MGM DCSB Postrunner 4wd Conversion, Debadged
    Haha yea, that's my question too. They could have easily made the frames the same and the cross members unique. Instead, they make the frames unique and the cross members the same. Doesn't make sense to me, but whatever.

    I do know this for a verified fact, btw. I was very confused for like a whole day what I was take measurements off a 4WD truck. I could figure out why all my dimensions were off because the cross members were the same. I'm a little slow, but I eventually noticed the frame brackets were different. I measured those and verified the difference.
     
    Brian422[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  10. May 4, 2020 at 1:50 PM
    #10
    Brian422

    Brian422 [OP] I fell into the pit that is TW

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Member:
    #57958
    Messages:
    15,483
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Birmingham, AL
    Vehicle:
    2012 DBCSB F/R Locked, 35's ,Long travel, 23 Tundra 4x4 limited
    Not Stock
    Did you use a stock driveshaft btw? Im getting one for super cheap so im gonna use it for now. How bad are your vibes lol? Ill go one peice when i have the money.
     
  11. May 4, 2020 at 1:53 PM
    #11
    BamaTaco56

    BamaTaco56 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2017
    Member:
    #214383
    Messages:
    10,306
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Trey
    let me know what you decide to do. I’m sure I could get it figured out.
     
    Brian422[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  12. May 4, 2020 at 1:59 PM
    #12
    jowybyo

    jowybyo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Member:
    #116863
    Messages:
    6,092
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    Baltimore, MD
    Vehicle:
    '14 MGM DCSB Postrunner 4wd Conversion, Debadged
    I have mine original cut shorter. I think it’s 13” shorter. I have vibs at take off but I also haven’t tried fixing my driveline angles. I keep saying a will but it’s been 4 years so I’ll probably never do it.
     
    Brian422[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  13. May 4, 2020 at 2:30 PM
    #13
    Brian422

    Brian422 [OP] I fell into the pit that is TW

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Member:
    #57958
    Messages:
    15,483
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Birmingham, AL
    Vehicle:
    2012 DBCSB F/R Locked, 35's ,Long travel, 23 Tundra 4x4 limited
    Not Stock
    I though aboutcutting mine shoter but im just going to add an extension to my center support area to connect to the carrier since the driveshaft im getting is super cheap and in good condition.
     
  14. May 4, 2020 at 2:52 PM
    #14
    jowybyo

    jowybyo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Member:
    #116863
    Messages:
    6,092
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    Baltimore, MD
    Vehicle:
    '14 MGM DCSB Postrunner 4wd Conversion, Debadged
    It was like $90 to have it shortened if that makes a difference to you.
     
    Brian422[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  15. May 4, 2020 at 4:11 PM
    #15
    Brian422

    Brian422 [OP] I fell into the pit that is TW

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Member:
    #57958
    Messages:
    15,483
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Birmingham, AL
    Vehicle:
    2012 DBCSB F/R Locked, 35's ,Long travel, 23 Tundra 4x4 limited
    Not Stock
    I’m paying $150 so not enough to make a difference haha
     
    jowybyo[QUOTED] likes this.
  16. May 4, 2020 at 4:16 PM
    #16
    Brian422

    Brian422 [OP] I fell into the pit that is TW

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Member:
    #57958
    Messages:
    15,483
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Birmingham, AL
    Vehicle:
    2012 DBCSB F/R Locked, 35's ,Long travel, 23 Tundra 4x4 limited
    Not Stock
    @jowybyo looked under my buddies truck and your right lol. Frame is lower
     
  17. May 4, 2020 at 4:18 PM
    #17
    will.i.was

    will.i.was Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Member:
    #252688
    Messages:
    1,680
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Will
    Houston, Texas
    Vehicle:
    SC 2.5
    So you found your donor truck then? :D
     
  18. May 4, 2020 at 4:25 PM
    #18
    jowybyo

    jowybyo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Member:
    #116863
    Messages:
    6,092
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    Baltimore, MD
    Vehicle:
    '14 MGM DCSB Postrunner 4wd Conversion, Debadged
    Yup. If you mod your cross member correctly, you should end up with an 1” more clearance around the cross member than him. A lot of people get hung up on rock by the cross member so it’s not insignificant.
     
    Brian422[QUOTED][OP] likes this.

Products Discussed in

To Top