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Who here is running E rated Duratracs???

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Eesh, Nov 8, 2010.

  1. Nov 16, 2010 at 12:28 PM
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    the number of plys might not increase but their strength certainly does...
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=55
     
  2. Nov 16, 2010 at 12:41 PM
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  3. Nov 16, 2010 at 12:46 PM
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    You're wrong there. Going to an E rated tire doesn't have anything to do with the number of plys built into the tires structure. If you don't believe me click on that the the other member posted.

    And MOST E rated tires max out at 80 psi, not 65.
     
  4. Nov 16, 2010 at 1:21 PM
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    ^ Wow LOL


    Here you go buddy. Taken straight from Tire Rack.com's website.


    Today's load range/ply ratings do not count the actual number of body ply layers used to make up the tire's internal structure, but indicate an equivalent strength compared to early bias ply tires. Most radial passenger tires have one or two body plies, and light truck tires, even those with heavy-duty ratings (10-, 12- or 14-ply rated), actually have only two or three fabric plies, or one steel body ply.
     
  5. Nov 16, 2010 at 2:15 PM
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    You said in your prior post "running a E rated tire doesn't nessesarily mean your buying a stronger tire." Why do you think a e rated tire is able to carry a heavier load? Like I said before...the number of plys might not increase but their strength certainly does.
     
  6. Nov 17, 2010 at 2:16 PM
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    Crap, all this discussion of the poor ride of the E tires, with the fact that such heavy duty tires are not necessary has me a little worried. I went in to get Duratracs put on today as we have snow in our forecast and I am still running the Dunlops my Tacoma came with. The guy insisted that there is no such thing as a C in this tire and to just put on the E, so I went ahead.

    There is a 30 day guarantee at this place that allows me to change out the tire, but I'd rather not worry about whether I like them or not, just get the right tire. Also, I'll have to let them know right away that so they can order this C tire to get it on before the 30 days is up. It may take a while to get as well since they are non-existent and all.

    Also, isn't it just physics that they'll deflate faster since they'll require higher PSI, or am I missing something?
     
  7. Nov 17, 2010 at 3:09 PM
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    Correct. Now allow me to fully qualify my quoted post........... All 18" duratracs are E load (according to GY website and their computer on their desk at their store) & there is one size of 18" E load Duratrac that the max psi = 65lbs. It is 325/65/18.

    All references I have made to load range and psi would pertain to the Duratracs on my truck which = 275/65/18 which also = 32x11x18. No need to dispute this, lol. I can take pic of sidewall if need be.

    FYI for those confused about why anyone would buy E load for a Tacoma....18" rims were on the truck when I got it and I wanted Duratracs so calculating all that, E load was only option.

    Let the other debates continue.
     
  8. Nov 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM
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    As far as that goes, I don't think anyone is debating whether or not Goodyear only makes 18" tires in an E load rating. We are debating the fact that the number of plies has nothing to do with the actual number of plys used to build the internal structure of the tires.





    You worked yourself up. I was just having a normal informative debate. When people know they are wrong they usually go on the defensive. :anonymous:
     
  9. Nov 18, 2010 at 9:04 AM
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    All this talk about the poor ride of the e rated tires? I've gotta say since I got the BFG A/T KO in a E load (the only load range available in the 265/75R/16) I've been pleasently surprised with the ride. My old tires followed the ruts in the road and I was constantly fighting the steering wheel. Now it rides way better! I don't know if it's the stronger side wall or the higher pressure (running 40 front, 36 back) but it has really helped. Also, the truck rides like it's on rails now and doesn't feel like its's leaning into the corners anymore...very stable. I'm sure some wouldn't like the ride since it feels more like a truck now but I don't mind it at all. I think as long as you have the pressure adjusted right these tires aren't all that bad.
     
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    Originally Posted by Yamaha Dave [​IMG]
    Just so you guys know running E rated tires doesn't necessarily mean your buying a "stronger" tire or one with a thicker sidewall with more plys than say a C rated tire, it only has to do with load ratings all of which are heavier than our little Tacomas can handle. Just curious why anyone would knowingly choose an E rated tire. If you were told otherwise by the tire sales guy than you just taken for your $$$$.




    Please explain how "running a e rated tire doesn't necessarily mean your buying a stronger tire." The higher rating might not have the additional plys but is the equivalent strength.

    off the tire track website:
    The load range or ply rating branded on a tire's sidewall helps identify how much load the tire is designed to carry at its industry specified pressure. Passenger tires feature named load ranges while light truck tires use load ranges that ascend in alphabetical order (letters further along in the alphabet identify stronger tires that can withstand higher inflation pressures and carry heavier loads). Before load ranges were adopted, ply ratings and/or the actual number of carcass plies were used to identify the relative strength with higher numeric ratings or plies identifying tires featuring stronger, heavier duty constructions.
    Today's load range/ply ratings do not count the actual number of body ply layers used to make up the tire's internal structure, but indicate an equivalent strength compared to early bias ply tires. Most radial passenger tires have one or two body plies, and light truck tires, even those with heavy-duty ratings (10-, 12- or 14-ply rated), actually have only two or three fabric plies, or one steel body ply.
     
  11. Nov 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM
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    Do I have Duratracs? No I don't I have BFG A/T TKOs, but I am looking at switching to Duratracs because the BFGs aren't performing well for my application. I didn't come into this thread to start any wars, I came to provide information and insight and was curious why anyone would willingly choose and E rated tires unless there was no other option available in the size they were looking for. Despite what many people actually believe, increasing the number of plys on specs doesn't actually mean you are increasing the number of plys in the actual tires, and most people don't know that. That's what a forum is for, to exchange information and gain knowledge. Remember you are the one who came in here bashing me; all I was doing was to provide informative information for the original poster trying correct misinformation that was given out. Carry-on.
     
  12. Nov 19, 2010 at 9:28 AM
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    Glad to hear you like the ride. Did you have to try many times to get the tires set at the pressure you wanted? Also, have you noticed much difference in mpg?
     

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