Tacoma - OVTUNE - VFTUNER - Update Info and Original Development

What exactly is happening or changing that makes you think this way? What tune you running. Are all your values reset?

 

So either people are crazy, illiterate, dumb or unable to follow directions, or there's an anomaly For a specific ECU that's unaccounted for thats causing the issues. Truth is, it could be one or the other, statistics favor one over the other.

 

It happened to me on 19800 2.0 beta, and it happens to me on the most recent 2.0 as well. When I first load the tune, I like the way it drives. Then 500 miles in I really like the way it drives. By 5,000 miles, it starts to go back to it's hesitant shifting, underpowered ways. By 7,500 miles, I reload the tune, reset LV and AT, and enjoy driving my truck again.

Which is weird because other people seem to hate how their trucks drive when they reset LV and AT. Just another infuriatingly inconsistent aspect of the 3rd gen Tacoma.

 

Statistics? If this forum is any indication, it seems to be the former.

 

IdK HoW thAts PosSIbLe My TuNe rUn gOOd. yOu BiG dUmb.

Coupled with the basically non existent end user support makes me beyond frustrated.

 

I have about 20 PM's for 04B04 that say otherwise. But everyone has their lense. No fault on you.

 

Have any of you guys having issues gathered logs and sent them to zendesk?

 

This has been happening to me since day one! Stock and OVTuned. Its exactly as you described. The ONLY thing that seems to get it back to driving well again is resetting the learning with either Techstream or OVTune LV and AT. I definitely can feel improvements made by OVTune, but like you said after 5000 mile (usually less for me) the truck reverts back again to driving like crap.

 

See the problem isnt that this is a scattered issue. It's that people are afraid to speak up in fear of being chastised. I've never once seen you in the thread but I know 04B04 has definite issues. Especially when people are actively trying to quell an active discussion about it. It's disheartening to say the least.

 

If there was an active attempt to solve the issue, I'd bet zendesk would be inundated with logs. But it's never talked about. You have people struggling to disable AV WITH INSTRUCTIONS. I haven't seen walkthrough on how to record and send a log

 

if there’s an issue, someone needs to log and send it to zendesk. Have a few people do it that are experiencing the issue and he can track it down.

 

Walk us through the tutorial

 

Well, I'm not afraid to bring up issues, but I'm still happy with the overall improvements that OVTune has made to my truck, even if it's not perfect. I'm angry at Toyota for putting out the world's most complicated, smelly pile of shit code, but I appreciate that OVTune is the only one out there giving us the tools to make improvements, cause the way my truck drove on the stock tune was unbearable.

Also, I've been waiting for the gearlock/performance version before I start making a bunch of requests/complaints. I want to see the final end product instead of distracting OVTune with a bunch of other stuff along the way. Even if there are issues with it, I'm hoping that VFTuner will inspire some TW members to continue tweaking until it's as good as it can get. Is the situation frustrating, yeah, but I definitely like it a lot more than nothing.

 

Not trying to quell a discussion at all, just stating my, and I would argue most others experience.
You seem to be painting your one side of the story as the norm.

20 PM's of other similar people who can't seem to figure things out isn't statistics. How bout the hundreds that can figure it out?

I have 04B04 and have not had any issue at all, nor have I had to contact OVTUNED to get assistance (other than getting tune files).
So I can't comment on service since I found it pretty easy to figure things out myself with their instructions, and having a very basic knowledge of how PCs work (flash software updating, antivirus, defender, drivers, etc). The number of posts with "it doesn't work" in this thread is astounding.

However, I find the re-learning question/issue interesting. I have not seen that at all. Perhaps it is because I drive in S mode 100% of the time. I think I read that there is no learning in that mode, so perhaps I'm spared.

 

You're right, my language was imprecise. What I meant was, there's a point where anomalies become a pattern. I believe this is that. This isn't the normal, "homeboy didn't clear AT or LV, musta muddied up the water somewhere". This is a clear pattern imo and needs to be addressed. That's where I'm coming from.

 

open Ovtune data logger (installed as part of flash manager. If you don’t have it, you need to remove the flash manager you have and install the new one)
Connect to truck
Start logging
Reproduce issue
Save logs

send message to zendesk with logs. Include as much detail as you can on the issue, when it happens, how to reproduce, ecu, tune loaded, mods you may have, miles since tuning, etc. the more detail the better.

typically you want to try to capture logs when the issue happens with some time before and after.

 

Is there a limit to the length of log? Best case is, hit record just before the issue and stop right after?

 

I drive in S and it's the same shit. The only way it behaves the way I want is to start from the bottom. 1>2>3>4 etc. Shorts shifts galore.

 

Maybe I’m in the minority, maybe I just had different expectations coming into the OVTune thing, but I’m happy with it. It was clear when I dropped my $ on the tune that OV is basically a one-man-show with a corner on the market as no one else has the ability to crack the ECU. So my expectations were set accordingly. I’d get a niche product with limited support. Having said that, when I submit a zendesk ticket, which I have at least 5-6 times, I always get a response within 2-3 days.

Does the tune make my 04B04 DCLB OR with 33’s, skids and sliders, shell, tools in the bed, etc... drive like my Dad’s stock 1794 Tundra? Nope, but that’s not my expectation either. Does the tune address the vast majority of the drive-ability shortcomings on my truck? Yep. Does the tune address ALL the shortcomings of my truck engine/transmission? Nope. I can’t say I’ve noticed my tunes reverting, but then again I’ve been trying a new tune every 3,000-5,000 miles anyway, so I’m resetting LV/AT every 2-3 months.

This is my experience, yours may vary.

 

Not that I’m aware of. Ideally you want to try and log the issue without a bunch of other unnecessary data. Don’t just start logging and drive around for an hour and send a giant pile of logs.

some issues will require more logging than others, it just depends. Use your best judgement to show capture the issue you are having.