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Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by I_squared_r, Oct 10, 2020.

  1. Oct 12, 2020 at 12:13 PM
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    HOLY SMOKES!

    I did not know that. Mine is a bit different, but I get a cash back option that I can use for the card balance or transfer to my bank account. I can even use it for gift cards and travel. Wild!

    Here I thought the first CC I got as a poor college kid was shitty, but I use it so often.
     
  2. Oct 12, 2020 at 12:13 PM
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    If I dont get the RTT then I can screw a bunch of these into a 2x4 and push it to the front of the bed. Good to get to my local trails, but if im leaving it unattended, then ill take the wheels off and put it in the back seat. I always did this with my other cars. Works with a tonneau, and dont need to leave a diaper on my tailgate.

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  3. Oct 12, 2020 at 12:17 PM
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    I have really good credit and I use my Amazon card for everything. I haven't found a better card to replace it.
     
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  4. Oct 12, 2020 at 12:18 PM
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    That makes a great bike rack but I suggest you bolt it to your front bed rail. If you don't have a front bed rail, that's job one. The 2x6 works fine however and keeps the bars a little lower.
     
  5. Oct 12, 2020 at 12:20 PM
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    I thought about getting the header rail, but it doesnt look like it would clear a backflip mx4 cover
     
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    Ok no clue what that is.
     
  8. Oct 12, 2020 at 12:26 PM
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  10. Oct 12, 2020 at 2:14 PM
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    Work in progress

    OP, what a great trip you have planned. And you are getting good suggestions from the good folks on this site. All helpful !

    Let me throw out a few things for consideration. Might work. Might not. But might help you looking at creative solutions:

    1) Have you considered renting a trailer? Doesn't have to be huge. I know there are places where you can rent those tear drop trailers or small Airstreams. That would give you a good place to sleep and good ... and some even have toilets and showers. I say this only because you are new to camping and ten days or more in a tent might be a big much if you are not used to it. Just throwing that out there.

    2) Have you considered a cap on your truck? You might be able to find a good price on a used one. If it is not the same color as your truck you can paint it or have it finished in Line-X. Or better yet, buy it used and when you are done with the trip you will probably be able to sell it and get your money back. If you didn't want to go with a trailer a cap on your truck with a good air mattress and you should be good to go. You can then buy those bike bags and store the bikes in the cab when you are sleeping. If you are sleeping in the bed then you can use the cab as storage. I suggest getting inexpensive bike bags so that you don't get grease all over the inside of your cab -- ask me how I know (14 bottle of upholstery cleaner later!).

    3) Consider something like this to have all of your pans and kitchen stuff in one compact package:
    https://www.rei.com/product/830828/...Vma_ICh3dMgwJEAQYASABEgK2lPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

    Honestly, a set of this (with their camping silverware), a camping stove and a coffee maker and you are good to go for pretty much any meal. I always like to have one of those hardcore plastic picnic table covers so I can lay it down and have a clean place to cook and eat. Also consider a large container of water and a large thermos (I mean like the 1 gallon). Great for being on the road. You can stop at a place, fill it with ice and hot water and a few tea bags and have ice tea for the entire day.

    I would scour Facebook Marketplace for any camping gear. Lots of people buy expensive stuff, use it once and then want to get rid of it. Worth always checking.

    Your truck is super capable. Don't know what model you have but not expensive to put Bilsteins all around and you have a truck pretty much capable of going anywhere -- with the possible exception of extreme overloading trips -- which you are not doing. I personally would not do anything to the tires until I had to. I would be more focused on having a spare ready to go -- and practice changing your tire. You won't be too far from any place where you can get a new tire or tires if you need them.

    Small solar charger could be useful.

    Check out Outdoor Gear Lab for product reviews. They have great reviews and often show a budget priced item that functions nearly as good as the editor's pick. For example, look at their review of camping chairs. I would get the one for $40 and probably be good with that:
    https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-camping-chair

    At REI, everything you buy you earn REI points which can be useful.

    What a great and fun trip ! My strongest advice for you is to do a few dry runs. Take the truck out and drive to a place and stay overnight. Keep a notepad of what worked and what didn't. What you need ... and what you didn't. Do that a few times and ask yourself how did you sleep? Did you need an extra pillow? Was the mattress soft enough, etc. Then go farther and get up the next morning and make coffee and breakfast. Again keeping a list of what worked and what didn't. That will help a tremendous amount.
     
  11. Oct 12, 2020 at 2:15 PM
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    Same I put about 3k a month on it on avg. I would have bought my Tacoma on it if the dealer would have let me :D that would have been some serious points. They only let me do 6k on the card cause they have to pay a percentage to visa.

    pay it off every month. Profit.
     
  12. Oct 12, 2020 at 2:28 PM
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  13. Oct 13, 2020 at 2:13 AM
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    ^^^ This, for sure. Don't make any huge purchases until you've done this especially being new to camping. A stock tacoma is already a very capable vehicle, even a 2wd. If you have the TRD OR model then you should have a bit of ground clearance and a rear locker. That's more than I had and I was able to get into a ton of places. The locker gets you 90% of the way to having 4x4. My suggestions on your newer list below.

    A few other things to consider - you'll want a couple headlamps for camp. Black Diamond and Petzl are a good brands. Don't get cheapest possible, these do fail fairly often. I like the Petzl Tikka.

    You didn't mention sleeping gear. You'll need sleeping bags and sleeping pads or mattresses at minimum. If car camping you can get away with heavier/cheaper options, same as with the tent. You can get a decent sleeping bag at REI for around $100. Don't get one that's too warm to start, maybe something rated to around 40F. You can always wear layers or get a bag liner if it's cold out, but you will be miserable trying to sleep in a 0 or 20 degree bag in Moab when it doesn't go below 60-70F at night.

    Comment on portable showers is worth noting. I've used a Coleman solar shower bag in the past ($15), they work ok but you need a place to hang them. More recently I just try to swim in a stream/lake after a ride. But that's not always an option. Baby wipes can get you through a few days. Places like Moab you can pay for a shower at some campgrounds or rec centers. Or even truck stops - they are surprisingly nice and cleaned between uses.

    Toilets. Didn't see these mentioned. Some BLM desert areas including around Moab now require you to have a portable toilet if camping outside a developed campground. This can be as simple as a Home depot bucket with a garbage bag as liner. You can buy a snap on seat for it. Don't be that guy who takes a dump behind camp and leaves a pile plus used TP on the ground. Our forests and deserts have been getting trashed lately by people who don't understand Leave No Trace or just don't give a shit.

    Battery packs - an Anker/Jackery/other portable power bank that is separate from your jumper pack is good to have. You'll need to re-charge phones and other electronics. Jackery and some others can charge/discharge simultaneously so you can charge multiple devices while driving with the bank plugged in.

    First aid kit - good to have. Fire extinguisher, ditto.

    Shovel - many uses. Cheap one works fine.

    Bike tools/key spares. You didn't mention much here but always good to be able to do some repairs yourself. The more remote you get, the more you'll want to bring. Desert areas have lots of pokey plants so tubeless, sealant and repair kits are worth bringing.

    Honestly you don't need a ton of stuff to go camping. Think of the activities you'll be doing and what you'll need for them. Bring some warm clothing to hang out in at night. Many areas have fire bans in summer/fall so you can't always count on that to stay warm.

    Have fun!
     
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    I appreciate all your suggestions. I have a 2020 Tacoma TRD OR DCSB 4x4. I talked to my girl about getting a regular tent and she didn't complain, but she sent me a photo of a woman on IG taking a nice photo in what looks like a RTT or bed with cap. I think she was low-key nudging me "I want to take nice pictures like this". I don't care about the photos, but you know how women are. Also, I think we would appreciate the solid platform for night time recreation :thumbsup: So back to getting a RTT. I wont be getting a tonneau because like you said, tonneau's arent great for bikes. I'll be a little slow to start ordering things because I just paid for my brazil vacation for NYE, but im getting started.

    I highlighted in blue the things I have or bought already.

    $416 KB Voodoo Crossbars
    $1200 Thule Tepui Explorer Ayer 2
    $60 GSPSCN Tire Inflator (Amazon)
    $37 walmart camp chairs pack of 4
    $25 Coffee Percolator on Amazon
    $150 RTIC 52 Ultralight Cooler (I have coolers for my boat, but nothing i'd trust for more than a day trip)
    $27 Walmart 5gallon water containers x2
    $60 2x Petzl Tikka Headlamps
    $25 Home Depot Mini Shovel
    Sleeping Bags, Any suggestions?
    Shower i'll probably do a DIY with PVC and strap it in the bed
    $70 Audew 2000a Jumpstarter
    $45 2x MBP Versatile Bike Blocks (good for when I dont have the tent on)
    $45 Toyota Front Header Rail (mounting bike blocks to this)

    Reliance Bucket Toilet with bags
    Magma Trailmate Grill with skillet + accessories
    Coleman camping stove
    Large canopy
    Fishing poles


    I really like the blacked out TRD Pro's so here is my optional list:
    $385 Bilstein 5100's
    $150 ReadyLIFT 1-inch rear block
    $60 toyota bed lights
    $150 predator steps (I'm trying to find used. I don't like my oval steps)
    $160 tacogarage TRD Pro Grill
    $1700 (approximately) for TRD wheels + tires
    $20 TSS Cover for Grill
     
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  17. Oct 14, 2020 at 10:54 AM
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    Looks like you are going all in Instagram style :D I'd get a HD "Overland Rated" ARE bed cap to put that RTT on. Also you might want to consider Deaver of OME heavy load leaf springs rather than a block cause you will likely be sagging from the weight. The 5100s don't support load, leaf springs do that.
     
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    Yeah and she'll have me taking pictures everywhere with the cool rig lol. It's not a bad thing. I never take pictures and because of that some memories will get lost as I get older.
    I want to keep the factory rake so it's level when loaded. I think the only time it will sag is when I have gear, tent, and boat loaded. Probably that will be a once a year occurrence. 1" lift front and rear. larger tires.
     
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  19. Oct 14, 2020 at 11:20 AM
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    It will look cool, no doubt about that. You will get lift and capacity with heavy duty rear leafs. With blocks you will raise it up with the blocks and sag back down when loaded likely having "bro-lean". I'd just do it right the first time but you do you. My OR sagged with a 200lb topper. I added Sumo springs to correct it as I am not lifted. Check out some of the lift threads. Plenty of ideas. an Add a leaf might be an option as well instead of blocks. I'll replace my entire leaf springs down the line though...
     
  20. Oct 14, 2020 at 11:29 AM
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    I just read that the AAL makes the ride a bit harsh when not loaded. That's what i'm worried about

    EDIT: I just got off the phone with toytec lifts and he says the deaver AAL rides good. So Bilstein 5100, raised 1.5" in front, 1.5" AAL in the rear
     
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