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vF Tuning for Manual Transmission 3rd Gens

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by tonered, Oct 1, 2020.

  1. Oct 13, 2020 at 7:52 AM
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    I updated the 1st Post.

    Please hit me up with any edits, comments, threads, or links.

    :hattip:
     
  2. Oct 13, 2020 at 7:55 AM
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    Oh hey i got tagged in the first post lol

    Stupid TW doesn’t notify on edits :(
     
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  3. Oct 13, 2020 at 7:56 AM
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    Yeah. I wish it did, esp with @OVTune 's posts.

    I try to at least put a post at the end of a thread when I mess with a 1st Post.

    If you want to do something for the AGM, lemme know. Otherwise, I can link up that other one. :rolleyes: :D
     
  4. Oct 13, 2020 at 8:03 AM
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    Shellshock’s AGM Settings

    ONLY DO THIS IF YOU HAVE AN AGM BATTERY AND VERIFY SUPPORTED INPUT VOLTAGES

    This is what I’ve been running for quite some time and have not had any issues. That being said, like anything else, modify at your own risk and dont blame me if your truck starts on fire lol

    This will will output 14.4-5v (tested and verified on both 04b14 and 04b04).

    *note: phase duty 6/7 have been renamed in the new versions of vF tuner. I can update screenshots later.. or just compare the values.

    On 2018+ trucks, phase duty 1 reads 14.7 instead of 76.79. This value is left unmodified on my tunes so its not an issue.

    Stock05D5B64E-37B0-42BF-8B29-8B36C6588422.jpg

    Modified
    F0623EF2-1DE0-4F5B-B418-AE84BCD6107B.jpg


    Updated tune that decreases output as temperate increases. Maximum of 14.5v
    0C31EF02-A1B7-441B-B995-544E5A02C9D5.jpg
     
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  5. Oct 13, 2020 at 8:05 AM
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    Thanks! 1st Post updated.

    :cheers:
     
  6. Oct 13, 2020 at 8:19 AM
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    in your first post (the OP here: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/ovt-vf-map-edit-air-load-control.685741/#post-24191919) the excel sheet is 10/7/2020 is that the latest update of the data in your current tune?
     
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  7. Oct 13, 2020 at 8:26 AM
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  8. Oct 13, 2020 at 8:38 AM
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    Updated 1st Post to add new Acceleration Throttle Request to Airload thread.
     
  9. Oct 13, 2020 at 8:52 AM
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    my last is so good that i'm saving it as the best yet, but gotta evaluate this that you're raving about. i haven't messed with the PTTT yet, so should be interesting. everything on your list here except cruise control & idle. not interested in messing with those (i don't use cruise control).
     
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  10. Oct 13, 2020 at 8:56 AM
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    That is what I was thinking with my previous tune, but the new maps and the PTTT stuff that was posted and liked pushed me over the edge when I updated to the latest vF version. I did think that I might have pushed the limits, but nope!

    CC and Cold Start won't have an effect on the driveability side, just personal preferences. The min CC speed edit didn't seem to work anyway. The stock value is less than 25mph? I did Zendesk that to @OVTune .


    I still need to get more miles in and test the envelope. It was mainly a normal drive in.
     
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  11. Oct 13, 2020 at 9:01 AM
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    what impressions can you offer from your PTTT change? or is it unclear due to multiple edits?
     
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  12. Oct 13, 2020 at 9:06 AM
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    Yeah. Multiple edits! Sorry. But, they seems to be playing very well together.

    Just layering on the smooth. I think it is giving back where the ALC V3 lost a scosche. I hated that crease in the PTTT map.
     
  13. Oct 13, 2020 at 9:12 AM
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    i'm just gonna try the whole thing for kicks. but here's this: after running the v3 4D ALC 04B04 maps, i was unhappy with the throttle response, and it was, well, too smooth? so i went back to the unedited ALC 04B14 dump tube file, did Accelerator - Acceleration Throttle Request to Airload - CTRL + I for full map, and as i mentioned it was super direct, spot on, and a little rougher in terms of throttle control which i like. if i don't like this big edit of your today file, then i'll go back to mine and start playing with PTTT. it's great how we're all finding our bearings individually. thank you @OVTune, vF is really bringing a whole world beyond the original tunes that were such a lifesaver.
     
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  14. Oct 13, 2020 at 9:13 AM
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    That is completely it! Personalization to the max.
     
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  15. Oct 13, 2020 at 11:00 AM
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    well this turned out to be a dog for me. I'm thinking my exhaust just makes everything different.

    does anyone have clarity on exactly what the Torque Calculated Base During Full Throttle does exactly when 4k vs. 5k? that's the one thing I'm interested in. the PTTT isn't happening over here. took away the directness and made it weird.
     
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  16. Oct 13, 2020 at 11:07 AM
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    The same values throughout the entire column doesn't make your tip in nearly nothing? Unedited, the map has higher values in the lower rpms for what I assume is tip in
     
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    Interesting. I am curious to see what more miles brings. It felt natural (?) on the way in today.

    Note that this is the Stock PTTT map:
    upload_2020-9-17_17-51-24.jpg

    At my typical RPMs (1,300 to 2,600), there is not much change. The intriguing part is that when accelerating at a steady throttle (say 30%), the TB should not be closing as the revs increase. I will try to log this in the coming days.

    The one question here is if 0% means 0% TPS or 0% TB. As we know, the TB doesn't close more than about 14%.
     
  18. Oct 13, 2020 at 11:25 AM
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    So just so I can get a better understanding of what the real world value of the negative values will give me, I smoothed the entire ATRA map like you did, and then I just changed the PTTT 0 column from all zeroes to all -5's and am going to flash and drive right now
     
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  19. Oct 13, 2020 at 11:25 AM
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  20. Oct 13, 2020 at 11:29 AM
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    I was thinking about setting that at -10, but with the feel of V3 ALC maps, I also thought that -5 might be goodness while hoping to stay out of the on-off tip-in issue.

    Good stuff! I got full throttle in the past, but I thought it might be good insurance. We'll see what the logs show after a couple more drives.

    I'll add that to the 1st Post.
     
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