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2021 MT Tacoma Rev Hang

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Propworks West, Nov 7, 2020.

  1. Nov 7, 2020 at 6:49 AM
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    Propworks West

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    Hi Guys
    Im new here, Ive been reading as much as I can find on the Rev Hang.
    The most definitive awnser I can find is that it is created by the ECU for emmisions reasons.
    I first purchased a 2020 Tacoma with the Automatic, I did not like the way the AT would shift all over the place, I traded the truck in for the 2021 Manual Transmission. I believe now that I made a mistake, the Rev Hang on the Manual Transmission is way worse than anything the AT would do. I have tryed the Sprint Booster but that only quickens the throttle on acceleration, it does not bring down the revs in-between shifts. Ive read till my eyes are sore and the only programmer I have read about with any results for Rev Hang elimination is the Orange Virus Tune or OVT. Ive got a message in to them but being Saturday, I may not here from them, Is there a programmer or Flash that you guys have used that has been successful in eliminating or reducing the Rev Hang? I dont care about making anymore power, I just want to get rid of the Hang, at 1000 miles and a recent 300 mile road trip, I think it is actually getting worse.
    I know there are alot of threads about this and Im sorry for starting another, but I just cant find a conclusive awnser,
    Thankyou so much
    Brent
     
  2. Nov 7, 2020 at 7:02 AM
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    ShirtTucker

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    Those of us running OVTune have been trying to reduce eliminate rev hang for quite some time, and there is an update coming soon that may help us do just that.
    I don't know if there are any tunes available yet for the ECU in your 2021, but Mat (the owner) tries to stay on top of new ECU releases.

    Tuning your truck will be the only way to improve rev-hang.
     
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  3. Nov 7, 2020 at 7:15 AM
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    Rev hang ?? My manual works just fine . Maybe you just need some time to get used to it . It’s definitely different than other manual transmission.
     
  4. Nov 7, 2020 at 12:06 PM
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    Rev hang is mostly in higher rpms. Sometimes it happens at low rpms but its very incosistent. I guess you never go above 4-5 k rpms. And its not in the manual tranny, its in the ECU tuning. Its there for emissions.
     
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  5. Nov 7, 2020 at 12:20 PM
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    Why is the rev hang detrimental to you?
     
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  6. Nov 7, 2020 at 12:23 PM
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    I hate it, the 2nd gen did it too but less noticeable.

    It's designed to keep the catalytic converter warm.
     
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  7. Nov 7, 2020 at 12:27 PM
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    It is fine for the most part, but when you get in those higher rpms, it seems like it takes forever for rpms to drop. Especially that high rpm 1st to 2nd shift.
     
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    Yep.

    My 1990 b2200 and 2007 b4000 had none of that shit. Also had good old cable throttle.:)
     
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  9. Nov 7, 2020 at 12:33 PM
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    let the clutch out? it's power to use, i don't understand the issues folks have with it, i just let the clutch out and I'm flying. vF Tuner from OVT can help, anyway.

    OP, if you like the truck then stick with it and get into some of the tuning the MT group here at TW is doing with vF. it's a great MT vehicle when you get it setup right.
     
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  10. Nov 7, 2020 at 12:45 PM
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    The first vehicle I owned that had rev hang was my 2008 Tacoma, took about a week or so to adjust to and never thought about it again, no big deal since then.
     
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    But again, how is it detrimental? I drove my manual for 70K in two years. It did the same thing but there is zero loss of performance, no loss of efficiency, no nothing really. It did not prohibit my shifting either or change the way I shifted.
     
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    When doing that 1-2 shift lets say at 4.5-5k rpm and in order for it to be a smooth shift, you just gotta pay more attention on how you release the clutch. Its a bit annoying at times but its definetily not detrimental. Just makes it a bit more difficult sometimes for a smooth shift, all im trying to say.
     
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    I've been running an OVTune performance tune customized for some time. The rev hang appears when you stop the gas and attempt a hard run, so usually at higher rpm.

    OV said they have some tables they're going to release in VF that give us access to whatever we need to eliminate this. Watch the VF thread for updates. I ask every couple weeks lol
     
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    Its not derimental, I can still get to the market and back no problem. The last time a owned a stick was 1990 and it shifted like a stick should, rpms drop in between shifts. Im simply going to have to accept the fact that vehicals have changed in the last 30 years. LOL its just really annoying and embarrassing. I just feel like Im a horrible shifter. but its not me.
     
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    Thankyou all for your input, I will get with OVT and see what they say. I just went for a drive and I swear the rev hang is getting worse. when I first got the truck, I could get about a 50% acceptable shift. Now, shift from 1st to 2nd and it just hangs there at 3000 for ever even 2nd to 3rd is really hanging. Im trying shift it quicker and let the clutch out while the rs are still up, not depressing of the gas. I have even tryed letting off the gas before depressing the clutch. Its just not traditional stick driveing. LOL
    Free wheeling the engine with a stick is like finger nails on a chalk board to me
     
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    AHA!!!!! As I suspected. The AT and the MT are the same damn transmission, just with different shift knobs.
     
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    At least now we know we all suffer equally. MT and AT in perfect harmony.

     
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    I think I just learned something. I just went and spent about an hour just driving around town, lots of stop and go in my town. I found that if I drive 1st to 2nd very aggressively, up to 3,000 rpm, (same though all the gears) let of the gas pedal absolutely as fast as possible and shift quickly, the rpms dropped properly and I had good shifts. If I did all of that lazily I would get the rev hang. I think there is a way to drive it and avoid the rev hang, but man, if you are not spot on, there is the dreaded rev hang. I think if you let the rpms hold before you shift, it will hang, if you get the rpms up and shift quickly, there is no hang (I hope Im not rambling, LOL) Ive only had the truck for a couple of weeks, I maybe able to learn how to drive it. Im still going to talk to OVT, if I can get a tune that will let me drive it with out haveing to be so agressive I would like that
     
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    Hahaha!:rofl:

    Man that shit made me laugh so hard!
     
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