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Power Steering mystery - now a drive shaft mystery...

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by mgord, Nov 3, 2020.

  1. Nov 6, 2020 at 2:44 PM
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    ROAD DOG

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    actually no.............far from it

    no pressure i rack to effect centering

    acts like a grocery cart wheels want to self steer ................go willy nilly

    if U were to take out the rackthen flat tow the front wheels would not track straight
     
  2. Nov 6, 2020 at 6:44 PM
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    Update - the vibration came from the shop I had it at put the drive shaft 180 degrees from correct. Cost me $180. Had to fight the original shop for my $180 back. Seems my nail polish from 1/ 1/2 years ago was correct. If they had set it back to my nail polish all would be good.

    How is is that me as back yard mechanic was better than a "professional". Very frustrating....
     
  3. Nov 6, 2020 at 6:49 PM
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    Simple enough fix at least! Morons.
     
  4. Nov 6, 2020 at 7:04 PM
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    Now do you believe us that your steering issue is the intermediate shaft and not the pump like those morons told you?
     
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  5. Nov 7, 2020 at 4:39 AM
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  6. Nov 7, 2020 at 4:52 AM
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    After seeing this picture I can tell you your intermediate steering joint is the culprit. There's corrosion in there making it bind. I had the same issue on my 2009 when I bought it last year. There was a weird hard dead spot, which is not ideal for the windy, twisty back roads I drive on. I sprayed some penetrant on it and worked the steering for a little bit. Afterwards I coated it with Fluid Film and has been fine ever since. I try and re-coat it every 6 months or so, usually lines up with my oil change. Although my truck isn't as rusty so yours will more than likely need replacement.
     
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  7. Nov 7, 2020 at 6:34 AM
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    driveshaft 180 out would not explain or eliminate the ‘ dead ‘ zone U described orig post

    it would substaniate the vibrations
     
  8. Nov 8, 2020 at 7:16 AM
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    2 different issues. Vibrations taken care of - although I got ripped on that one.

    Working on the dead zones. Going out for axle grease to slap on the shaft. Going to replace it when I get home. Just trying to figure out of the pump is getting replaced as well.
     
  9. Nov 8, 2020 at 7:39 AM
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    If you're looking for a quick / temporary fix for the steering shaft, use penetrating oil. Grease won't get into the joint.
     
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  10. Nov 8, 2020 at 2:31 PM
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    Plan is to spray the bejeebers out of it with WD-40 then lube it up with some axle grease. Maybe the grease will ooze into the joints.
     
  11. Nov 8, 2020 at 2:52 PM
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    Sounds like a plan. Tell us how it works.

    If it is the intermediate shaft and you replace it, I'd recommend coating the new one with Fluid Film to protect it. That's what I did with mine.
     
  12. Nov 18, 2020 at 5:33 AM
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    It's been about a week now. We are in NC now.

    I sprayed the joint with WD-40 and that seemed to help a bit. Then I lubed it up properly with axle grease and that made everything better. No dead spots at all. Will still replace the intermediate joint but will do that when I get back.
     
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  13. Nov 19, 2020 at 1:47 PM
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    So I go looking to buy an intermediate shaft and there seems to be a big discrepancy in the price. For example on Amazon I can get a unknown name (to me) for $60:

    https://www.amazon.com/Intermediate...=1&keywords=45203-04021&qid=1605822179&sr=8-2

    or an OEM part for $200:

    https://www.amazon.com/TOYOTA-Toyot...1&keywords=45203-04021&qid=1605822356&sr=8-19

    RockAuto doesn't seem to stock this piece and the $60 versions are sold by brands I don't recognize.

    You guys have any preferences or should I suck it up and buy OEM?
     
  14. Nov 19, 2020 at 2:36 PM
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    I used to drive the Wholesale Parts Delivery truck at the Toyota dealership I work at. I got to visit lots of shops and talk to lots of people who knew their stuff. Once (at a shop I trust) they ordered an OEM steering shaft - which I delivered. I found out when I got there that the reason they ordered it was to compare it to the no name steering shaft they got from a local parts store. I got to see the parts side by side. The aftermarket shaft was a total joke. It looked like a 3/4 scale version of the real thing. Oh, and it didn't fit for crap. Needless to say they took the Toyota part. Any questions?
     
  15. Nov 24, 2020 at 12:39 PM
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    Back home in PA and the inspection was up so ran it through (we have yearly emissions and mechanical). Told them to take a look at the intermediate shaft and they noticed no issues. They're thinking power steering pump.

    For now going to do nothing until the steering issue comes back.
     
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