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Put 255/85/16s on stock OR wheels and suspension

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Jibbs, May 12, 2017.

  1. Nov 24, 2020 at 7:31 PM
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    CygnusX191

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    I've seen some people complain about that, I've seen others run them until they're racing slicks with no chunking whatsoever. I'm guessing just different batches are better quality. The reviews on the falkens are excellent which is why I ended up going with them and I got a ton of friends to use them with no issues. I managed to take a chunk out of the sidewall on one of mine two wheeling trips ago, but that's more likely because of my spirited uphill driving without a locker than it is the fault of the tire. But I'm always willing to look at other brands of course. At the end of the day, a lot of us look at prices as the determining factor.
     
  2. Nov 24, 2020 at 8:06 PM
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    for 2 years I ran 255/80/17 Cooper ST Maxx on my GX470 in the mountains of Colorado and have no second thoughts of buying them again.
     
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    I'm getting my 255/80-17 ST Maxx's Friday or Monday depending on DT's shipping. I'm very excited and concerned lol.

    I've got 4r pro sema's and a second gen pro lift so I'm optimistic trimming will be minimal.

    Got the call this morning, Friday @ 4 it is.
     
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    Anyone find deals on 255/85/16?

    I’m tempted to find some take off 4 runner 17” wheels and get 255/80/17 as they are usually $60 cheaper per tire and come in better tire selections
     
  5. Nov 29, 2020 at 7:25 PM
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    Ok I ve been researching like crazy and I am still not sure what the answer is. I have a 2020 OR with stock suspension and pro 16” wheels. Will 255/85s work or will they rub? I just found out the pro wheels have a different offset than OR. I have read they will definitely rub on the front mud flaps and will remove them.


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  6. Nov 29, 2020 at 8:11 PM
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    I’ve been running 255/86/16 ST MAXX’s for the past several months (32PSI) and have had them in snow probably a dozen days (which have been in a variety of conditions) so far to start this mild winter. I’m at almost 10000 ft and work at 11000 ft. Drive over a small mountain pass and halfway up a big one to get there. So far from my experience is that they do great in fresh snow and slush mush type stuff, much better than the Goodyear Kevlar stock tires. On hard pack, about equal to stock. On ice, maybe a lil worse than the stock tires. By no means do they perform as well as a winter tire. The biggest thing these tires and almost all E rated tires lack is siping, most are M/T tires and not dedicated snow/winter tires. I’m no expert by any means but I have lived in the mountains most my life and have had most types of tires so I feel I have a ton of real world experience driving in all types of snow. IMO, good enough but still up in the air about getting some new badass wheels and putting some Cooper M+S or Nokian Hakkapelittas on to use for winters and switching between seasons. Hope all this rambling on helps:confused::thumbsup:
     
  7. Nov 30, 2020 at 11:52 AM
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    I'm gunna continue to ramble as a supplement to your rambling, haha.
    I did the AT's all year for a while and then for the last couple I've been running snow tires in the winter and AT's for summer. I just upgraded from a 2011 Taco to a 2021 and I plan to do 265 Winters + 255 M/T's for summer. I, too, live in the mountains of CO, not quite at 10,000' but at 7,000'. After having dedicated WINTER tires the last couple of years, I can never go back. Being able to mob around in the snow and ice with badass winter tires and 4wd makes you feel like your truck has super powers. Obviously there's no substitute for having good winter driving skills and experience, but I don't see much downside here. You extend the life of your summer tires, you just have to pay for the switching over twice a year (unless you get another set of wheels). Not sure if you have a discount tire nearby, but they do free swaps in the fall. So then its only like 80$ a year to switch. If you live at 10k' I'd almost thinking having snows would be a must.
     
  8. Nov 30, 2020 at 6:27 PM
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    I know what you mean by feeling like your truck has superpowers! I told myself the same with my old taco “I can never go back”. Winter tires are the shit! You may have just made up my mind:cool: now I just need to figure out how to explain to my wife why I need an extra set of wheels and tires in the garage:rofl::notsure:
     
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  9. Nov 30, 2020 at 6:40 PM
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    Haha you could hold off on the wheels for now if needed.. Also you dont need to get the most expensive winter tires for them to be much better than any other kind of tire.. my 2c. lol.
     
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    Also I should add, you sell it to your wife as a safety thing :cheers:
     
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    Nokian makes a truly winter capable AT tire called the Rotiiva AT Plus. It's not as good as a dedicated winter tire like the hakka, but it's very capable on any surface besides mud. Really, it's what an all season truck tire should be. It's not loud, harsh (LT, C & E rated available), excessively heavy. I've had them on my first gen and 2nd gen for about 35k miles. Will likely be installing on my 3rd gen soon. Only compromise to me is the tread life guarantee of 40k miles. I have never worn a set out before changing vehicles, but they wore well and I was expecting to get more than the 40k out of them.
     
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    Excellent find!

    I got ours several months ago and paid $262 for the set and the spare. Got a mild discount but at $197 that is an incredible deal!
     
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    It is just money...
    With the understanding that all tires are different, in my experience, yes they will have a minor rub. I still daily the truck with a set-up that matches your plans and it doesn't bother me (stock suspension OR, pro wheels, 255/85). Parking lots and around town it is just fine.

    If you get a lot of body roll while braking and turning or the wheel is much more than 45% off center while off-road you'll sometimes hear them rubbing. I am certain it is not the mudflaps. Might be fender flare or suspension arms.

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    How is your gas mileage with those tires and the power with the effective changed bearing of the overall diameter?

    picking up our new camper in January, weighs 1,100 pounds. Trying to decide between Lt265/75R16 or Lt255/85R16. We daily drive the truck and will also go on frequent fire road camp outs with trips to Utah and Baja in the near future.
     
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    I got this email from them when I tried....

    Thank you for giving us the opportunity to work with you through our Found it Lower service.


    I see in your Found it Lower request you selectedAmerican Tire Depot as the competitor, unfortunately, they are only located in California, they do not ship tires to Your state and the Buy 3 get 1 free deal is on in stock only tires.


    We would be happy to offer you the Cooper Discoverer ST Maxx LT255 /85 R16 123Q (part#19376) at $263.00 each to earn your business.
     
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    If I were you, I'd stick with 265/75R16 since you're doing anything too crazy
     
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    Not sure if this helps anyone, but Cooper sent me this when I asked for a load/inflation table on their 255/85R16 ST Maxx tires.

    Unrelated but extra datapoint fwiw, usually run mine ~32 psi; never had any rub issues on stock OR alloy wheels.


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    The gauge cluster says I do 15-16 around town and 17-19 on the highway. Used to do 17-18 and 19-21ish. But, the speedo is off by like 5% and I haven't done the math to see what it really does in terms of MPGs.

    This is my daily and it doesn't feel that much slower? But it has always felt slow even with a manual. I'm really happy with the tire size, how it looks, how it did on fire-trails, camping trips, and some 'moderate' passes in CO, and I'm pleased as hell with how it all turned out.
     
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    Have you done the adm and/or OVTune? That'll put some pep back in your manual step
     

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