Toyota Needs to Step Up!

No you don't get it because you do not know how the automotive industry as a whole works and claim that normal dealer orders are "CUSTOM" orders to which they are not. Toyota dealers place those same orders just the same and yet you have no experience in a field in which you claim to be an expert. Your only experience is some engineering on such systems which are such low volume and more of a semicustom type builds they aren't even in the same playing field as mass production automobiles. By your logic of all of them are built to order and are custom then your whole argument is lost. Forget the fact you are saying it takes 3 manufacturers producing 16 models over more assembly and supply facilities work at a less efficient level to produce 10x the number of vehicles yet claim to be this smarty pants engineer and mathematician teacher

You're really good at taking things out of context and not understanding what is implied. Is this better for you. At the point of combustion the burning of diesel fuel produces more energy per unit of measure than any other fuel burned in an ICE.

The argument about the energy it takes to create such fuels is a totally different one since ALL fuels being burned in an ICE go through similar processes so it's excluding all that. Is that better more detailed scenario for you.

I'd rather be toyota too almost 1/2 my sales aren't from one vehicle line up and majority of those being huge government and commercial contracts.

But by his assertion every dealer order is a custom order by which toyota does the same. You see he doesn't understand the term custom order in the large scale automotive manufacturing process. Even the likes of his beloved examples and poorly constructed apples to oranges argument comparing the # of trucks produced by 3 manufacturers over 16 models fails to realize that even they shy away from what the automotive industry today considers a custom order. All the manufacturers and dealers will do them it's just at the scale or the #s which is claimed.

You are correct and this is partly why Toyota is # 2 in sales in the US only to GM which has a lot larger reach in market diversity. But if you compare Toyota sales statistics not a single vehicle line is a standout from the rest so that if one of their offerings has a off year they are not going home crying. The Big 3 have become so reliant of their full size truck market that if they have a major slip in that area they are going to be floundering, especially ford. The article doesn't take into account that Toyota does have some market area niche models they produce. The TX Baja 2nd gens and TSS Tundras are just a couple that come to mind but in general they don't.

The risk is why many manufacturers not just toyota when they offer special editions, chevy high altitude for instance, the work is performed at a 3rd party vendor or at the dealer level. The same way back in the day, 80s into the 90s, so to streamline manufacturing and reduce the amount of tooling the big 3 sent all their models that had convertible models to be converted from existing models at companies like ASC. Streamline and efficient.

I was being very broad and generalized with my statements about the toyota methodology. There is a lot more to it as you have added and linked to. But in the context of the discussion I didn't see it necessary to be that detailed since it still could get the point across. I feel that sometimes when making a point it isn't necessary to be specific to the point of explaining every nuance but it still shows the general idea with a broad stroke.

 

And they aren't almost solely reliant on huge government subsidies, kickbacks, and incentives to even be remotely successful.

 

I believe the Mirai is only supported in CA, not HI. There are hydrogen fueling stations in works in NY, it's next market.

 

My wife has a Rav4 and I love driving it, but it's not the Prime and I have caught myself building one on Toyota.com many times but for myself I've almost convinced myself I can get a small trailer and happily replace the Tacoma

 

All you need is a slight chop, that's not a dramatic change to make on the refresh, so its doable.

 

My dad bought a 2019 or 2020 nissan and it just feels like an OLD truck. Yes, its a good bit cheaper, but the bed has no where to attach tie downs and the whole thing just feels kinda dated compared to even the 2nd gen Tacoma.

 

chris is a close second to Lane

 

Actually AIC is my fauvorite band of all times and Mr. Staley was an amazing singer, very sad that he had to go. They helped me get through when i was having rough times so those guys mean a lot to me. They had some hard times of their own, thats why the music is so good. The unplugged show is amazing, i heard all these songs like a thousand times and still love them.

"Right turn" song with Chris and Layne are one of my fauvorites. Its sounds kind of haunting.

I saw AIC about 8 years ago and they were fucking amazing. Lane's dad came out in the wheelchair, was pretty cool. Jerry was killing it, i lost my voice for a day or two after haha.
Well that usually happens after every show i went to.

Miss going to see shows...

 

This isn’t correct. Legit cradle-to-grave studies show that after you drive a hybrid 6-9 months or an EVs ~1 year you compensate for the dirtier origin story and are greener going forward. For plug-ins, that metric depends on how your grid gets its electricity. See the Union of Concerned Scientists’ multi-year studies on this from a few years back.

 

Says the pot to the kettle

 

So you are saying that 9 months of driving an EV emits the same emissions as the mining equipment and factories producing the parts of said vehicle?

And when I plug in my EV vehicle to the grid, the coal factory down the road produces less emissions to generate that power to charge my vehicle than driving an alternate PZEV gasoline engine?

 

https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/defaul...ner-Cars-from-Cradle-to-Grave-full-report.pdf

read it for yourself if you feel like learning something

 

So I have read similar reports and they all fail to address one of the single biggest manufacturing dependencies...supply chain. A factory powered by Nuclear energy emits lower emissions than a coal factory which they take into consideration but they don't take into consideration all the mining equipment to extract lithium, the logistics of shipment, the manufacturing of the equipment for all of this. It's a much deeper hole than just the factory power to make a battery, and I'm just hitting the tip of the iceberg.

I've also read contradictory reports that state EV and Hybrid lifecycle greenhouse gases are not that much better than diesel counterparts.
Others mention that depending on battery location of manufacturing an EV vehicle will have more greenhouse gases than the closest gasoline counterpart.

 

Here's a secret, buy a sr5, toss a pro grille and pro badges on it and your gym bros wont even know the difference. Boom, more money for creatine.

 

Toyota Tacoma Sales Strong During Pandemic

https://www.yotatech.com/articles/k...RLSng0jOpjn_T8KJErJM6GJh_YjeNGnV6JGyNxRop3rBQ

 

I put new tires on my 2016 OR less than 1000 miles ago. I had them swapped onto my 2021 OR because I HATED the stock tires. I got less than 30k miles out of them before they were dangerous to drive on, and I swear they were magnetic. Each one had at least 2 patches by the time I replaced them.

 

My first show was in early 90s Montreal. Unbelievable. I just saw them in Syracuse a couple of years ago. Not bad.

 

I envy you my friend, that you saw them with Layne. It always looks like he barely opens his mouth when singing, but his range is amazing.

 

Lol those dudes are not science, they are a political group that tries to fit science to their political agenda.
All you have to do is look at their "causes" on their website.

 

Yep I've ready many reports like the one that was cited then I go and research the ones that wrote it and there is a very big commonality just like the one that fails to address the way in which Li is mined among others which you mentioned.

Legit studies that I have read and seen don't come anywhere close to those predictions. Plus my statement was less about the plug ins and its energy source and more pointed towards the fact their manufacturing impact is a lot greater than a typical vehicle. BTW many more show the contrary than that study.

People always cite sources like this but then fail to actually research those behind the pen. Personally I had to do a cradle to grave report on the building industry. In my report I used the prius as an example of certain "green" measures may not be as good as claimed. Most scientific studies found the prius didn't "pay back" the cost of manufacturing for anywhere from 6-12 yrs and most ownership was less that 5 and then used market and ones kept on the road weren't even close to the age in which ICE and diesel vehicles are. LEAD is the building industry version of that union. Pay to play and get a plaque.