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OME 2" kit

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Mastiff37, Dec 29, 2020.

  1. Dec 29, 2020 at 8:13 AM
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    Mastiff37

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    I apologize if this has been covered a million times, but I couldn't quite find what I was after.

    I'm interested in keeping my 2011 totally streetable, but just adding a slightly more aggressive stance and slightly bigger tires (probably 32" range). I'm looking at the OME 2" full kit (OMETAC05LKSB).

    upload_2020-12-29_9-11-59.jpg

    I'd love any opinions on this kit, and before/after pics would be great. Also, at 2" are there any drivability or vibration concerns, or other unintended consequences?

    Assuming I go with it, any particular vendors that are active on the site that I should support? I came across these guys, and they will assemble the strut for you before shipment:

    https://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/toy...10lbs-2-lift-by-old-man-emu-ometac05lksb.html

    I've installed lifts before, but always leaf spring trucks, so this sounds like a convenient service to avoid some frustration.

    Finally, they mention " let us know if you want a 5mm trim packer placed in one of your struts or both. A trim packer ring will give about 3/8" more lift which can help correct "Taco Lean" or get just a tad more lift out of your kit." What does this mean?
     
  2. Dec 29, 2020 at 8:17 AM
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    Taco (and tundra) lean is where the drivers side of the truck sits a little lower than the passenger. The gas tank, battery, and driver are all (arguably) heavy things that sit on one side of the truck. A shim on the coil over and stiffer leafs in the rear will typically fix this.

    I run this OME setup on my Tundra and I’ve never been happier with a suspension package. For the money, you can’t beat it. :thumbsup:

    Also, FWIW I bought the package from @Toytec Lifts
     
  3. Dec 29, 2020 at 12:32 PM
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    That kit is showing the 885 coils and that's what my truck has. On a regular cab, that will give you around 3" of lift and they are quite a bit stiffer than stock. A lot of these kits list the lift for the AC and DC trucks which are heavier and don't get as much lift. I would suggest looking for the 884 coils which should be a little less lift and not as stiff. Do a search here for the 884 coils, several reg cab guys did them and it sounds like they really like the setup. I don't think you need the trim packer on the reg cab, mine doesn't have it and it sits level. Also, my truck has the Nitrocharger 90000 front shocks which are pretty stiff. I would suggest the 90021 which appear to be a bit softer but handle the same amount of lift.

    Here's a link to the 2884 springs with shocks preassembled. Search around their website for some of the combinations but I didn't see the option for the 884 springs with the full kit.
     
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  4. Dec 29, 2020 at 12:45 PM
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    Dobinson mrrs Deaver leafs archive garage hammer hangers.
    Good kit minus the leafs they make a tone of noise get icon rxt leafs instead
     
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  5. Dec 29, 2020 at 1:04 PM
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    Thanks for the heads up. I want to keep this mild. I'd rather end up with 1.5" than 2.5", let alone 3". The ARB catalog just says 2" across the board, which surely can't be right given that some vehicles have 4 cyl and some 6, plus regular cab vs 4 door... I've been down the road of getting way too much lift from springs before. Don't want to go there again, so I'll tread carefully here.

    It looks like they all have the same spring rate, so must be different lengths?
     
  6. Dec 29, 2020 at 1:04 PM
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    Creaking between the leaves, or bushings?
     
  7. Dec 29, 2020 at 1:08 PM
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    Between the leaves
     
  8. Dec 29, 2020 at 1:37 PM
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    for $100 more can get Deavers and be much better than Icon
     
  9. Dec 29, 2020 at 6:13 PM
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    Any thoughts on Bilstein 6112 for this application, with the 600 lb springs?
     
  10. Dec 30, 2020 at 2:46 AM
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    My truck ended up with about 2" of lift with 5100s front and back, OME 884 coils, Wheeler's 3-pack AALs, and 1/4" driver side spacer. It wasn't a "kit" per say as I pieced it all together, but the outcome is exactly what I was looing for. I'm running 265/70/17 tires.
     
  11. Dec 30, 2020 at 6:42 AM
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    I was considering a similar set up for my 2010, but decided to go with a third Gen OR low mile take off instead. My stock leaf springs are still in decent shape and I just wanted to freshen up the front and add maybe an inch to level it. Mine is a daily driver 90% street, 10% fire roads.

    My other concern was having to chase down all the vibrations a lift kit can bring (which I had to do with my previous Jeep - royal PITA).

    My advice is (assuming the truck currently runs smoothly for you) is to measure the pinion angle now so you know what “good” looks like. I’d also budget for new UCA’s. You may not need them, but you won’t know until you check the camber numbers.
     
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    This is what I'm coming around to as well. I think I'd be happy just leveling the front, maybe 1-2" and leaving the rear alone. I'm going to jack the front up today to see how much lift looks level to my eye. The question is how best to do this, and maybe upgrade the shocks while I'm at it. That's why I was looking at the Bilstein 6112 (0-2.5"). I don't know what a third gen OR is, can you explain? (I know what 3rd gen means, just not OR)
     
  13. Dec 30, 2020 at 7:29 AM
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    Sorry - 3rd Gen Off Road model. You can pick up the components used for maybe $350 (shocks, struts, UCA’s) plus shipping. If you hunt around the 3rd Gen sales forum you can find them with pretty low mileage (in some cases just a couple hundred miles) as guys mod their new trucks.

    3rd Gen struts reportedly add about an inch (maybe a hair more) to second Gen rigs due to a stiffer spring rate.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with the kit you’ve selected and I was going to go the same way. It wasn’t until I sat back and really thought about how I was going to use the truck that I changed my mind.
     
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    I don't trust that kit I picked anymore since I think it may add much more lift that I really want. I have a regular cab and factory bumper, no winch, etc. Plus, I'm realizing that the truck has quite a rake from the factory, and just putting the front up level looks pretty good from what I've seen. And then the vibration issues you mentioned. I was reading through a long thread about the trouble regular cab guys were having with even small lifts in the rear. I too have been down that road and it's not fun.

    Anyway, are you 4-door, or access cab? How's the ride with the 3rd gen setup? Did you use the rear shocks too? Thanks!
     
  15. Dec 30, 2020 at 8:14 AM
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    When you lift the front, it will probably throw off your alignment. Then when they go to adjust the alignment, they will probably find that the cam bolts are frozen and it will limit adjustment or they will need to replace that hardware so be prepared for that. You might be able to do front coils/struts from the 3rd gen OR and put you right where you want to be which should save some money and keep the ride as comfortable as possible.
     
  16. Dec 30, 2020 at 8:32 AM
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    Why would the 3rd gen OR be different in this regard from the Bilsteins set to, say, 1.5" lift?
     
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    I’ve got a 4-door and I’m swapping over the suspension on Friday. I’ll post photos and before / after measurements for you next week. My plan is to use the 3rd Gen shocks as they have only 1k miles on them. Plenty of life left so might as well run them for a bit.

    JL8Jeff does raise a valid point about the cam bolts for alignment adjustment. You might be OK due to being in AZ. I’m probably not due to being in NH.

    My plan is to cross that bridge when I come to it, but it is one more thing to consider and be prepared for with the budget for the parts.
     
  18. Dec 30, 2020 at 11:42 AM
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    When you set the Bilsteins to preload the springs, it will give a stiffer ride and that will limit the shock travel. You would need to pay to have the stock coils/shocks (if you're referring to running the stock springs on the Bilsteins) disassembled and then put the stock coils on the Bilsteins. If you buy a set of 3rd gen OR springs/shocks they will already be assembled and ready to go. You'll probably save some money as well. Your front end looks a little lower than stock so your stock springs might be losing lift already. Have you measured the distance from the center of the hub to the fender flare to see how much lift you're currently at?
     
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    I was contemplating a full Bilstein setup like this: So new springs as well. But yeah, I'm still concerned about getting too stiff of a ride. I'm totally open to the 3rd gen idea if I could gain some confidence about where I'd land lift wise.

    I'm planning to do some measurements today. My thought was to see how much lift in front would make it look level with the rear. Hopefully I'll like that look and don't have to mess with the back. I guess there must be a FAQ somewhere with the hub to fender measurements at stock height?
     
  20. Dec 30, 2020 at 2:16 PM
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    The sun didn't cooperate, but here are some pics, just jacking the front up.

    No lift, 20" from hub center to bottom of plastic fender:
    upload_2020-12-30_15-13-21.jpg

    Jacked up 1.5", 21.5" hub center to fender:
    upload_2020-12-30_15-14-53.jpg

    and 2"
    upload_2020-12-30_15-15-17.jpg

    I like 1.5", 2" is a bit much. So now the question is how to achieve that and a good ride.
     

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