Toyota's Respone to Aftermarket Grab Handle

I cut into and notched out all of the corner braces to perhaps allow a slightly easier downward deflection of the A-pillar cover in case of an airbag deployment.

Installed on a 2019 Tacoma two weeks ago...
after: after:
before:

 

Station Wagons with third row backward seating sans seatbelts!

 

I bet having the steering wheel only on the driver’s side must really trigger your OCD.

 

By my count this is his 4th troll attempt on this same topic. After the last few troll attempts on other topics quickly ended with hypocritical blowback, he wiped details from the account. It seems like this entire accounts purpose is to troll now.

 

I'm with Toyota on this one. I don't know if it will or won't happen, but why would they be liable if it does not activate or blow an aftermarket installed part into someone's head. This is just common sense.

 

To be honest, I hate the look of the interior from the passenger seat POV lol

 

I have a 2nd Gen that's factory equipped with the deadly drivers side grab handle. I honestly can't see how you could possibly hit your head on said implement of death.

 

My belly fat too. Her ass is large and her belly..... hangs down half way to her knees.
She weighed 102# soaking wet, nekkid 40 years ago when I married her.

 

You were expecting something different?

 

Speaking of riding in the back are you old enough to remember this ?

Subaru Brat
it has a built in wife seat....

 

A friend of mine had one of those, little bastid was great.

 

Installing the aftermarket grab handle relinquishes Toyota Motor Corporation of liabilities associated with the driver side curtain airbag not deploying properly in the event of a crash causing injury to the driver.

That’s a liability I am not willing to negate for Toyota.

I also don't stick aluminum in microwaves.

 

I had an '83. Black with a moonroof.

 

Yours is tested to deploy properly by Toyota and Toyota is liable if it doesn't deploy properly and you are injured. With the aftermarket on the 3rd Gen Toyota is no longer liable for the airbag not deploying if a driver is injured.

 

I got the lap belts in mine. I still need to re-install the rear belts though.

 

My real question is why did they eliminate it in the first place? After all, the passenger side still has it which tells me it isn't a safety issue (not referring to the aftermarket one, that is).

 

Ahh, metal dashboards, dad's arm as an airbag, backseat window dash seating, brake checking. Good times.

 

Lots of goofing around in here, which is to be expected (it's an enthusiast forum full of self-important assholes, and that includes me). I think we're understating how important safety testing is though.

Commenters with the air of "remember before seatbelts" may not fully appreciate how fucking dangerous airbags actually are, even when they're functioning 100% correctly. They're explosions of compressed air that must be timed to the millisecond during an impact. Too early and they may deflate before they can absorb impact. Too late and they'll explode in your face after it's already hit the glass. Manufacturers take airbag safety very seriously, because they can be deadlier than not having airbags at all if they're not engineered correctly. That's why you don't put a car seat up front. Not because they wouldn't be fine for almost every drive, but because if the airbag deploys during an accident your kid might not come home with you. Consider how expensive the Takata airbag recall fiasco has been, and that's on the off-chance that corrosion has turned the internals into deadly shrapnel during deployment. Airbags aren't anything to fuck around with.

Now you want to bolt on a steel-core handle to a piece of trim where the airbag deploys from, which the original manufacturers did not account for when carefully designing and testing the airbag system. Will that affect the timing of the plastic splitting open? Is it fastened securely enough that it won't fling off and impart a large amount of kinetic energy directly into your face when the bag deploys? Is the seller of this modification doing crash and safety testing to account for this? Why is raising questions about it a bad thing? Yes, we're all free to mod our trucks as we please. We're also free to question the safety and integrity of these modifications, and the people making money from them.

 

They probably modified it to be more efficient and effective for the driver than a passenger. Removing a bolt makes the plastic cover break free much easier. In crash test videos you can see the plastic cover come free of where the second bolt use to be and the cover flexes around the remaining single bolt.

 

I still do the stop short in my challenger. Got to keep that right arm toned up as a passenger seat belt.